Nursing is pathetic... - page 4
It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the... Read More
Nov 15, '99I have to agree with most of what LAS and katea wrote.
If people are thinking about becoming nurses, "trying it out" by working as a CNA, might help them make the decision.
As for those of us already in nursing, I think we need to write our legislators and anyone else who can help us, in an effort to effect positive change, for patients, and ourselves.
Nov 15, '99Looks like you work for AGH. Poor guy. If you have been nursing for ten years, we may have graduated at the same time. Bad time to graduate. The bottom fell out of nursing in the Pittsburgh area in 1993. Where did you go to school? CCAC? Pitt? Doesn't matter. What does matter is how you vent your anger. What are you doing about it. Do you call your legislators? Write letters? If not. Stop whinning and do something. As you may have guessed, I am well aware of the situation in Pittsburgh. This problem is country wide. Visit www.hospitalhub.com/community/cng/index.html to learn what others are doing about it. Did you know that ABCs 20/20 is going to do a story this month? The CNG has been writting letters, called legislators and helped ABC. For the sake of your patients, turn your anger into a positive force for change... or get out of nursing.
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Nov 19, '99I feel the same way that "nursedude" feels. I also feel that nurses are overworked, underpaid and get no respect. I've been an r.n. for 6ys now and I am looking to get out. Forever? I don't know. I know for sure that I don't want to end up like a lot of nurses I know...high BP, ulcers and bad attitudes. Currently, I am taking tests to get into a law enforcement agency. I feel that I am young enough to pursue another career..one that is challenging and that will give me the respect I feel I deserve. I know that I will always have my license to fall back on, but for now, I want out. Nursedude, take my advice and try something new, something you've always wanted to do. Take a break and get out of nursing for awhile, you will be happy you did!
Nov 19, '99I agree that people should pursue careers that they enjoy and are rewarded in ways they value, but if you're looking for respect, I'm not sure you'll get loads of it being in law enforcement. The "good" citizens always seem to be critical, and the criminals sure aren't going to give you the respect you deserve! Law enforcement officials also have their share of stress, and the HTN, ulcers, depression, etc. that goes with it.
I have had patients throw things at me, and I much prefer that to being shot at! I'll stick with nursing.
Nov 19, '99ND,
Your are the one who is pathetic. Nurses work so hard to be who they are and to care for their patients. It's not all about money.The majority of nurses will tell you that they want to help people. They are CAREGIVERS. If you want power and money, go back to school, be an electrician or something. You do not belong in nursing. Nurses are many things to many people. Nursing is not for the weak. It sounds like your hospital administrators made some poor choices. And if you can't live with that,either do something to change it or get out. I get tired and angry sometimes, but there is nothing else I'd rather do than be a nurse.
Nov 23, '99I DON'T WANT TO BE A PLUMBER OR AN ELECTRICIAN -- I STILL MORE THAN ANYTHING WANT TO BE A NURSE.
YOU SHOULD GET OUT, NURSEGUY OR NURSEDUDE, NURSEMAN, WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS. YOU SHOULD TAKE UP TRUCK DRIVING. THE BIG RIG SEEMS MORE LIKE YOUR CALLING.
Nov 23, '99First. Congrats nursedude. AGH went union this week. Second...
RED ALERT---Call/E-mail everyone!!!
ABC 20/20 story is on for Nov 26th
as told to me by Silvia Johnson herself
Pass it on
Read this from Silvia;
Thanks. I hope a lot of people will see the story. The AHA president is
already doing damage control -- interestingly, not by alleging that our
story is wrong. That would be a stretch, given the number of nurses I've
Nov 28, '99I am just embarking on a return to school at the age of 33. I have chosen the field of Obstetrics - I will become an RN first and eventually a midwife.
A friend said this to me: There are four types of people. Those just trying to survive, those who are making ends meet, those who are striving for success, and those who are striving for significance.
I think most of us who pursue nursing are in the latter category.
I am keeping an open mind, listening to the naysayers and taking in their complaints, but trying to keep my passion and spirit for nursing intact.
Dec 4, '99Great Topic. I am male. I received my BSN at age 37. Nursing is the first "job" I've had that I thought of as a career. My wife is an RN also. She worked in traditional settings for a few years, now works "freelance" as adjunct nursing faculty, etc. She loves it. I work in Critical Care in a large hospital. The demands of nursing are well-documented in previous posts. I too sometimes wonder (with a laugh) how it was that I sacrificed so much in order to clean poo. Seriously folks, patients and friends ask me about the demands of nursing, pay, hours, etc. My standard and honest answer is simply, "I love what I do, I love the people, and I know that I make a difference in the lives of my patients." I also add this, "You can't do this just for the money. There are easier ways to earn it, like ditch digging for instance."
Of course I feel that we should all get more money, respect, etc. In my mildly deluded state, I sometimes think we are actually making progress. And finally ....
I do recommend nursing as a career for people who feel "called" to it. If you don't feel it in your heart, then don't do it.
Dec 5, '99To all nurses,
We were happy to see that the media is finally realizing what we as nurses have known all along. That the amount of trained nursing staff on any given floor has a direct relationship with patient healing and safety. Less nursing staff may mean a higher risk of infection, medication errors, missed symptoms and/or an increase in the hospital stay for the patient. We at the CNG, have been fighting for a public recognition of this problem for some time now. We have been calling and writing our legislators, providing information to 20/20 and writing articles. While our voices on the net are only now being heard, it is not time to stop just because 20/20 did a story. It is time to nudge this spark into a roaring fire.
The 20/20 story was well done in our opinion. It did however, not go far enough. Towards the end, no solutions were given with the exception that the answer might be to certify or license the Techs, Nursing Assistance, ect... As you well know, this is not enough. An RN spends a minimum of two years training and an LPN a minimum of one. Some states have Certified Nursing Assistance and they do not know the first thing about infection control or anatomy/physiology. Why then are they doing dressing changes and placing Foleys?
We are asking all Nurses to let their voices be heard. Call 20/20. Post on their Internet BB. Send this to every nurse you have on your E-mail list. Post this message everywhere you can including any Internet sites you know of. Tell them we must keep the spark alive while adding fuel to the fire. The story was half told. It up to us to let the public know the truth.
Remember this. Hospitals are not afraid of the government. Money in the right place buys anything. Same with unions. Hospitals do not fear them either. What they will fear, is an informed public that is demanding to know, who is taking care of their loved ones. A well trained, experienced, educated and Licensed RN. Or a Tech with six weeks training. The fight is up to us. Just remember, the next patient you care for on your understaffed, undertrained floor, may be someone you love.
Please, let your voice be heard. The Internet BB are anonymous. Letters, phone calls to 20/20 and you legislators may be anonymous too. Just let your voices be heard.
Founding Member CNG
The Concerned Nurses Group www.hospitalhub.com/community/cng/index.html
Jan 18, '00I'm new to this bb/forum stuff, so bear with me please.
I am absolutely astonished at the anger I read here.
The question, again, is not about burn-out. It was, "Would you recommend nursing as a career?"
I agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion, so here's mine. Yes, I certainly would. I've been an RN for 10+ years, and although I get perturbed with some hospital policies, co-workers, etc., I have never regretted becoming a nurse. From the time I was a small child, nursing is all I ever wanted to do. As it turned out, I was a late starter. I was an Executive Secretary of several years and didn't begin college until I was 33 years old. If you are looking only for MONEY, then nursing is not for you. But if you are looking for other qualities, such as fulfillment, then nursing is something to consider. I have always felt that nursing is not something chosen, but more of a calling.
Nursing, as does ANY profession, has its drawbacks. But I have never done anything that gave me more satisfaction.
Those of you who are so angry and/or burned out definitely need to be looking for something else to do.
Mar 5, '00NurseDude
If you really feel this way about nursing then what are you still a nurse for? I dont think you or anybody like oyu deserves to be or should be a nurse. Nursing is about the people not the money or the so called "underappreciation". The reward comes when you help someone who will make a difference in their life because of how you helped them. Please reconsider your career in the medical field. Or at least work behind a desk for crying out loud. You sound like you would be a good hospital debt collector. You sure have the attitude for it.