hello this is relating to nursing in Australia and a bit of my story. The worldwide depression has hit Australia slightly hard, so while this GFC has not hurt Australia or nursing as bad as other industries. I really need to tell other nurses what its like as a new grad in Australia (Oct 2012). The depression has resulted in health cutbacks so some EXPERIENCED nurses have been let go. This means that there is no place for new grads in Australia and my guess is each new grad training position possibly has 10-20 appling for that one position. I am 49 year old male, grad RN last year; i have 20+ years as Advanced Care city paramedic and worked in health care my whole life. This means i have some 50,000 hours of health experience or maybe closer to 75,000 hours. But employers always respond with we require one year of post grad experience, so require 2 years or 3 years. What this means to you, especially if you are overseas; stay there
(do not come here and take my jobs lol) seriously employers here can afford to be picky when choosing new staff. So they want clean presentable babies who smell clean instead of a fat, bald old man (i am being a bit unfair to myself). Personally a lot of Asian nurses work here and are awesome nurses with the only exception they do have trouble speaking the language. This would cause some employers to be more reluctant to employ some nurses due to this issue. So if you have trouble writing reading or speaking English PRACTICE, avoid speaking your native language unless you have to. practice by finding people in real life or on skype; whatever you must do. But get it set for your future career. If you are Asian, USA or UK seriously you are in for a lot of shocks here and a lot of adventures. You will get out of it what you put in. DO NOT even consider going remote nursing it is a very different world. make sure you research remote nursing well; and then forget it. rural nursing might be ok if you come from a small place but these places have less than 10,000 and most of those people are not all in the "towns". Your visas will take months to years and you will need assistance here or a lot of money behind you so start that searching now. If you have awesome experience you probably will need one year of experience to land an interview. Otherwise 2 or 3 years. So stay away from Australia or truly get organised, find whatever work you can land at home or in Australia and remember your dream of being a nurse might take a lot longer, but persevere and you will get there after a long expensive journey. So keep trying and fight for your career or give up now and stay home. (just kidding) good luck...
Oct 16, '12
Quote from imaginations
I work in a local health district that employs more nurses from the UK and Ireland combined (per campus statistics). Add to that the number of New Zealand trained nurses and often it's "spot the Aussie" on the floor or in the tea room. Why is the state health department employing (and sponsoring visas of [UK/Irish] - and giving new graduate positions [New Zealand]) nurses instead of a) Australian new grads in Australian new grad programs and b) giving experienced Australian nurses jobs in Australia? There are two New Zealand trained grads in my group of ten graduates, and many more New Zealand trained nurses who were previously new grads in the hospital/network and now have full time jobs.
Because there is a nursing shortage, according to our union and all the do goody groups - more immigrants the better and therefore this goes with the our government policy to look good to the world that Australia has ridden out the recession, please come trade with us.I was told by a person the other day Australia is the easiest country for immigration get a sponsorship visa and then within 3 months you can be permanent resident.- same rights as a citizen but cannot vote.It stinks that nurses educated overseas get into Australian graduate spaces when there are so many Australian graduates without a place. But if you say anything that we should look after those in the country, you are called a racist, fair dinkum We are politically far too correct as well.I've got children who want jobs in the future after graduating! I want to think my government cares about them! .IMHO
Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 16, '12
Oct 16, '12
Thank you on your views of nursing education in Australia and the assessment of Australian new graduates and experienced nurses in Australia.When one asks why people here already in Australia are not given first preference in jobs - these assessments are often made by people of different cultures.At no time in my post, have I made any assessments of poorer education of nurses from any of our many immigrant countries.Importantly nurses educated in this country are given many skills, critical thinking is one of them. You will find nurses in the US are also educated in the university system, with same amount do prac but with midwifery and pads included.Private hospitals have many, many, nurses from overseas, because they pay less and do not have to adhere to patient ratios, and therefore more job openings, this is acceptable to new nurses from overseas in the past that are after any employment for sponsorship.Nurses from India are not accepted as midwivess in Australia, along with those from the US and the Phillipines, even though it is included or part of or tacked on to the end of their degree.Another is nurses educated from overseas and here in Australia has made the Australian nursing profession what it is today- a well respected, good pay and we'll resourced, best practise workforce. Our patient outcomes are the best in the world, maybe you have highlited the inadequacies of the entry master program in nursing in under 3 years that should be taken up with AHPRA.
Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 16, '12
Oct 17, '12
Quote from Sezza83
Oh. Computer match came out yesterday in Vic for graduate years.... Out of the 7 undergraduate students currently on my ward, 1 got a position for next year....
Great news, have a happy and great career on mid, Registered Nurse, and now Registered Midwife! thinking of doing same next year.
Sad for you colleagues though, something will come up.
Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 17, '12