Volunteer organization requires me to sign a statement of faith - page 2
This is sort of an ethical dilemma, I wonder if I am getting myself into trouble. I do not believe in god. I am more spiritual with nature and do not follow the bible. I was raised christian and understand christian values and... Read More
- 4Dec 13, '12 by llg GuideI think it would be morally wrong to lie to them in order to get a chance to work with them. I like the idea of being honest with them, emphasizing that you respect their faith and would not do anything to interfer with their religious mission -- and then seeing if they are still interested in having you as a volunteer.
But I believe you should respect their religious freedom to run a faith-based organization -- and not show disrespect for them by lying to them.
- 2Dec 17, '12 by neurorn6If you a true non believer then you should stand by your convictions, just as this faith based organization. Even though you are offering your medical skills, you are representing this religious organizations and they may feel that Faith is an important part of what they offer. Lying to them about what you believe or not believe does you no credit and may come back to bite you in the butt. Karma is a you know what. I also thinking handing them your own statement of belief is disrespectful. It may be in your own best interest to look to a different organization or volunteer in another capacity then a nurse.
- 3Dec 19, '12 by NJ2008Quote from AltraAgreed. If OP doesn't agree with what this organization stands for that she should not sign that paper. That's wrong and dishonest, IMHO. Also asking them for an alternative statement borders on disrespectful and can be taken the wrong way.This clinic is a mission of this group. There is nothing "unfair" about their requirement that their volunteers share that belief. Surely there is some other secular group, such as the Red Cross, for which you can volunteer.
OP should continue looking for another organization to volunteer for.
- 5Dec 19, '12 by tnbutterfly, BSN, RN AdminQuote from EarthwormRNFrom reading what you have written, I surmise this clinic is not just looking for volunteer nurses to help provide medical care to under-served and underprivileged individuals. These individuals can get that kind of "medical care" at other clinics or ED. This Christian based clinic's goal is to meet the physical and spiritual needs of those individuals. This is what the clinic was founded on. It is not unfair for them to want volunteer staff who are Christians so that they too can talk honestly and sincerely to the patients about their spiritual needs...... pray with them as needed......quote scripture......talk to them about salvation if that is what the patient wants. A non-believer may have a difficult time doing this since they do not believe in the power of God and scripture. This clinic does not have to follow the same guidelines as non-Christian based clinics. They can require volunteers to be Christians. They can pray openly with their clients.I'd like to volunteer at this christian based non profit medical clinic because I want to volunteer my nursing skills but in the volunteer packet it requires I sign a statement of faith, that I believe in god and my faith is true, which it is not. I am afraid that if I tell anyone I am a non believer they will tell me to go elsewhere.. but I find that to be unfair. I am not going into a church to worship. I am going into a clinic to provide medical care to under-served and underprivileged individuals (who by the way are not required to be christian in order to receive care). I have not seen any other volunteer opportunities in my area where I can use my nursing skills so this is where I want to go. IF I do sign it, my plan is to cordially talk about the religion if spoken to about it and not tell anyone I am a nonbeliever. I have had many patients in the past of whom I have read scriptures to by their request and even talked about religion with them and they didn't know, nor did I ever tell them that I don't actually share the same faith with them.
I also wonder, if I do sign it and someone finds out it was a false statement, what will likely happen?
Thank you, any input is appreciated, and please no bashing on my belief. You will not convert me. I am a good person, with good morals, and I don't need a leader to help me distinguish right from wrong. (In this case, I feel if I sign it, I am part right/ and part wrong - but my desire to help the community is more beneficial)
I am certainly not judging you in any way. I am just trying to help you see things from the viewpoint of those who established the clinic. Like other posters, I recommend you find another volunteer opportunity in your community. There are many who could benefit from what you have to offer.
- 1Aug 11, '13 by Caribbean CharacterHelp me get this straight. We have already established that you are willing to LIE about what you claim to be your core beliefs, but I am not real clear on the why, whether it is an odd desire to fit in with this particular group or in order to list the volunteer experience on some future school or job application.
- 2Aug 11, '13 by whealerI understand the idea of submitting your own set of standards and beliefs; but I'm not particularly sure of what that will accomplish. Instead just be honest with them, and most importantly, with yourself. As Caribbean Character pointed out, are you volunteering out of the earnest desire to help others or is this specifically to enhance your resume and keep your nursing skills fresh. I would get to know the medical staff before signing anything. See if you can talk to the main point of contact or Volunteer Coordinator and explain your situation. If you are honestly committed and/or compelled to help others (and not just trying to build your resume) then perhaps the Volunteer Coordinator can empathize. You say you are spiritual but you do not believe in God; then what do you believe in? What kind of values does your spirituality establish? Something you may have to come to terms with is why you discontinued your Christian beliefs. I think what's important to consider is how the patients might feel about you as a nurse - are their patients dominantly Christian?
What is the mission of this particular Christian medical center? Have you spoken to other nurses at the center to determine why they are committed to the medical center? From my personal observation, nurses who volunteer at a Christian Medical Center, or at any faith-based medical center, do so because it is a calling from God. They do this because they are a servant of the Lord and as such this is one of their duties. Let's say you lie and sign the form and become a volunteer nurse at the center; you may want to leave because their particular values are at the forefront of their role as nurses. At best, it can become annoying; at worse, you may offend the other nurses because your beliefs are different. It would be pointless, in this case, to consider signing the contract.
If their are any other medical centers, clinics, or hospitals nearby then offer your services as a volunteer. You may initially have minimum patient interaction but as time goes on and as you develop a relationship with the staff, you may get to eventually work closely with patients.
- 1Aug 12, '13 by OrcaSome organizations blur the line between a ministry and a profit-making enterprise. It seems that this is one of them. I was also raised in a Christian faith but I have since adopted another faith more compatible with my personal beliefs. I would have an issue with the statement as it was presented. One need not be a Christian to be caring, empathetic or competent in delivering care.
- 1Aug 12, '13 by meanmaryjean, MSN, RNQuote from OrcaAnd how exactly have you determined that this group 'blurs the line'? I'm curious. And sometimes a ministry must 'make a profit' to stay open.Some organizations blur the line between a ministry and a profit-making enterprise. It seems that this is one of them. I was also raised in a Christian faith but I have since adopted another faith more compatible with my personal beliefs. I would have an issue with the statement as it was presented. One need not be a Christian to be caring, empathetic or competent in delivering care.
And where is it said that the OP was told that in order to be caring, empathetic or competent she must be a Christian? You are reading much into the original post that is simply not there.