New Health Care Bill - page 6

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I was interested how everyone feels about the new health care bill and more importantly how will it effect the nursing field?? (Salary, jobs growth etc.)??... Read More


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    Quote from kcmylorn
    cpl- perhaps to understand my post you should do some reading in Sociology, more specifically, reading under subcultures and why they exist. I believe the sociologists have well documented the effects of poverty, high unemployment in certain areas of our country such as Lousiana, Alabama, Miss.- the three poorest states in our country with the highest unemployment rates. Meth labs seem to be more in abundance there and in the W.Va and Carolina's- 3 other lower income states. When one considers how easy it is to purchase the common chemicals to make meth- it is no big surprise that some will purchase these chemicals from the grocery stores, walmarts etc and find a way to make the substance to make money especially when they live in the above mentioned states where there are no jobs. Perhaps you would be of better 'service' to your patients by delving into the causes of illness and injury that land your particular patient population into 'your' unit in your geographic location. In other words- take a cue from your patients to learn something instead of bashing and attempting to discredit other posters which is non productive, unprofessional, bullying and down right mean spirited.. This is not Afghanistan, this is a professional nursing form.
    I completely agree with this. However I scrolled up in the thread and realized quickly I wasted several hours responding factually to his/her nonsense. Obviously no matter how many times others have proved his/her claims incorrect, s/he just goes on and on with the windy messages full of partisan hackery, insulting other participants, proclaiming expertise s/he clearly doesn't have and generally insisting his/her uniformed, biased opinion is an expert one.

    This ain't Afghanistan and it ain't the Glen Beck show either. It just kinda feels like it here though and not being a Glen Beck fan, I'm going to skip out to sections where I can discuss things with people interested in professional nursing issues.


    Unfortunately I think it's one of those things only the moderators can do anything about if they even want to. It seems unreasonable to me that an intelligent discusion on policy , whosever Administration may be the initiators obviously can't be had here.
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    Quote from AprettynewRN
    I completely agree with this. However I scrolled up in the thread and realized quickly I wasted several hours responding factually to his/her nonsense. Obviously no matter how many times others have proved his/her claims incorrect, s/he just goes on and on with the windy messages full of partisan hackery, insulting other participants, proclaiming expertise s/he clearly doesn't have and generally insisting his/her uniformed, biased opinion is an expert one.

    This ain't Afghanistan and it ain't the Glen Beck show either. It just kinda feels like it here though and not being a Glen Beck fan, I'm going to skip out to sections where I can discuss things with people interested in professional nursing issues.


    Unfortunately I think it's one of those things only the moderators can do anything about if they even want to. It seems unreasonable to me that an intelligent discusion on policy , whosever Administration may be the initiators obviously can't be had here.
    You need to put the crack pipe down. I have not insulted anyone. Is my opinion biased? Probably, because I have lived long enough to know everyone can not be saved from themselves.

    I noticed you did not dispute anything I said with facts, only your opinion. Your mention of the waivers earlier was somewhat correct. Many companies, ALONG WITH UNIONS, were given a one year waiver not subjecting them to Obamacare. Surely you don't think a left-wing liberal website would post the negatives about the law. Such as how many of Obama's supporters are not being penalized by it. I suggest you look at who got the waivers, both corporations and unions, and look at how much money they have given Obama.

    I see you missed the point I made about Wikileaks. I will type slowly. Gov't secrets were made public by a low ranking Army private.

    I have a feeling the thing that seems most unreasonable to you is someone disagrees with your OPINION and you can't stand that.
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    Talk about projection and irony-impairment! Not to mention disingenuity. "Put down your crackpipe"? Wow. That's even better than your recent clownish demands to know how much of the hard-earned uberwealthies fortune, moi, a backbreaking hard-working nurse wanted to steal! Thrive on negative attention much growing up or is the cheap Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh impersonations impressing your parents?

    I am not sure I believe you are a nurse but I'm sure I don't want to believe it. You come across as an abusive, dishonest brute, entirely unprofessional and uninterested in the profession and one who participates solely to distribute fresh baloney off the hard right propoganda mills.

    If you indeed are a nurse I can only say if the behavior you demonstrate here towards those who patiently expose the propoganda you tirelessly spam to the horrific way you talk about your patients, judge your patients and interact with your peers is in ANY way comparable to your professional interactions, then I will suggest you do yourself a favor and clean up your act in a big, fat hurry.

    Later. (Much, much later).
    Last edit by AprettynewRN on Jan 4, '12
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    Yep, I am a nurse. Once again you DID NOT DISPUTE ANYTHING I SAID WITH FACTS, only your biased opinion. Perhaps it is because you have none. Maybe you missed what Al Gore or other left-wing nut-jobs said.

    I have no problem caring for my patients. Even the ones that did something stupid to become my patient, like trying to manufacture meth, attempted suicide, mixing alcohol and guns, drug deal gone bad, etc. Face the facts, oftentimes people do stupid things and end up in the hospital. Maybe you cannot compartmentalize but I can. I can think a patient is a total moron and still give them great care.

    Expose my propoganda? I think this started when you incorrectly tried to correct me stating that unions do not provide insurace benefits, which I corrected you on.

    This debate is getting old. You are not substanciating anything you say. You are just parroting what the left-wing talking heads say, ignoring common sense facts. You would like to believe adding 30 million people to insurance will cost the gov't less money.
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