Ii have some concerns where this economy will be going over the next 3-5 years

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A little aside and I apologize in advance....I have some concerns where this economy will be going over the next 3-5 years because of no caps on health care premiums...I am an Oral Surgeon who is running for Federal office in NY as a Dem against a Wall street Dem...my wife is a BSN/RN and works with me half a day every day. I truly think we are looking at 9-11% sustained unemployment which will sap Main Street while Wall Street does fine. Supplies to do surgery keep going up, worker costs keep going up and until we separate Wall Street from politics, you are looking at poor manufacturing growth, more inflation, more overseas growth or plateau and people holding back even on medical treatment until last resort.

The nursing market is saturated in big cities and the shortage won't kick in until another 5 years when a flood of folks will retire. There are solutions but the three biggies as far as business costs related to health care are 1) capping health insurance premiums, 2) drastically reducing smoking 3) drastically reducing obesity in adults and children...til then? Good luck.

Scott Noren DDS

Oral Surgeon

Ithaca, NY

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

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So ... what's your point, Scott. What do you want us to do about it? Are you asking for our opinions on the economy? on the likelihood of getting people to change their health practices? on the effects of capping insurance premiums?

Or are you campaigning for the votes of our New York members?

I'm not sure what you want from me.

1. You are concerned about where the economy is going---- check. you should be.

2. ... because of no caps on Health Care premiums --- really? You reckon the economy is that uni-dimensional. Just health care premiums? That's all we have to fix?

3. I truly think we are looking at 9-11% sustained unemployment--- tell me about it. I'm in NV and our unemployment is sustained at just under 15%. Would love to have 9%.

4. which will sap Main Street while Wall Street does fine--- Like... there's a distinction? My retirement is pretty much tied up with Wall Street. You know, I'll bet if "Big Oil" and "Big Pharma" and the Airlines and Ford Motor Company and Utility companies etc. do OK, I will do OK. If they get screwed, I get screwed.

5....and until we separate Wall Street from politics, you are looking at poor manufacturing growth, more inflation, more overseas growth or plateau and people holding back even on medical treatment until last resort.---- Um, are the folks who do Wall Street things... are they Americans? And, if elected officials can limit the speech of Wall Street folks, when will you limit mine? (Or the PAC to whom I donate money... which is the same as limiting my freedom to petition government for a redress of grievances?

6. ...you are looking at poor manufacturing growth, more inflation, more overseas growth or plateau and people holding back even on medical treatment until last resort. --- so Scott, we're supposed to fix a sluggish, almost moribund, economy with more centralization, more controls, more mandated moving of $ from this sector to that one, more government determination of winners and losers.

7. The nursing market is saturated in big cities and the shortage won't kick in until another 5 years when a flood of folks will retire.---- You're right. Happened during Clinton-Care years when the Managed Care promoters were the smartest guys in the room. When nurses get laid off... enrollments tank and we'll have a nursing shortage for a decade.

8. 1) capping health insurance premiums, 2) drastically reducing smoking 3) drastically reducing obesity in adults and children...til then? Good luck. --- so just say it. (1) you're suggesting we must end private insurance as we know it. (2) Prohibit tobacco and make Nicorette give their product away to victims for free. (3) Then make Game Boy and all video games illegal and take fat kids away from their negligent parents and raise them in government boot camps.

Scott... the luster of progressive public policies is wearing really thin. Same-o-same-o. More and more people are getting more and more weary of doing the same stuff all the time because the latest crop of politicians tell us they will do it "smarter" this time.

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