Now I get why experience means everything yet nothing - page 11
Now I finally get why nursing experience can prove invaluable in NP school, yet actually means nothing. It appears that nursing experience gives a valuable base from which to relate but does absolutely nothing for helping one... Read More
- 1Mar 20, '12 by alwayslookingnpYou should stay at the bedside if that is where your passion is. We so need excellence at the bedside. The old definition of a "good nurse" is changing and is moving toward a nurse who understands patho and pharm. This is where it always should have been. It is gaining more respect for nursing (finally!)
Don't agree that NP is dying. NPs are change agents a being the tip of the speear is never easy. with all the changes in health care and the changes which are no doubt to come, I think the role of the NP will be solid.Tthat said, it may not be in my lifetime : (. Also because of nursing's relationship with medicine the salaries for NPs may lower to that of RNs (most have already and many are even lower!) that means what for the salaries of RNs? Proboibly will dramatically trend down.
- 1Mar 20, '12 by zenman GuideQuote from alwayslookingnpThere is certainly a lot of need for change in nursing but you really can't compare physician training with years of clinical with a BSN nurse going straight into NP school and coming out with 700 hrs of clinical. I personally would like to see 2,000 hours of clinical for NPs unless you're a nut like me with 70,000 hrs of experience, lol!You failed to mention how many NP's don't actually spend a day working as a floor nurse before qualified (at least on paper) to practice.
I disagree. I am an NP and there was no one in any of my classes without bedside experience. That being said, why not? MDs go straight from med school and we have MDs in their 20s. Why do nurses try to hold back other nurses? It is the nature of our profession I suppose that needs to change.
- 1Mar 20, '12 by TX RNQuote from zenman^^^ This.There is certainly a lot of need for change in nursing but you really can't compare physician training with years of clinical with a BSN nurse going straight into NP school and coming out with 700 hrs of clinical. I personally would like to see 2,000 hours of clinical for NPs .........<SNIP>
I agree with an increase requirement in NP program clinical hours. But you can add to this STANDARDIZED clinical rotations. Not this, "find your own preceptor."
Geez, looking back I am so grateful of the preceptors I had. However, I'm sociable and have made many acquaintances and have an easy time networking. The people who had a tough time with securing a clinical preceptor in my class were usually, hmmm....how do I say this in a PC way........ <thinking> ............, "less than sociable." They could be the smartest student in the class but they just didn't have the ability to network with others.
The lack of uniformity in clinicals is why so many NP's feel so overwhelmed and underprepared when they graduate. Too many of us were settling for whatever we could get just so we could meet the clinical hours required for graduation.
- 0Mar 21, '12 by PsychcnsMandatory np residencies--yes but who pays for them. When I worked inpatient psych there were two full time attendings and two residents at all times (on day shift).. For 16 patients. There was tons of on unit teaching..Teaching hospitals are expensive--would they add np residents??Last edit by Psychcns on Mar 21, '12 : Reason: Add info