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- Feb 21, '12 by hrodgersHi everyone - yikes, so I'm really confused now. I am hoping to begin an ACNP program this summer, part-time, should graduate in 2014 (a crazy time period from what I've just read)! So how can/will all of this potentially effect me? Should I not certify with ANCC when it comes time? I will have 2 options - ANCC and AACN, correct? Starting in 2014, will all ACNP programs automatically be forced to change to A/G ACNP? Or is this a friendly suggested option from ANCC? This seems like a lot of nonsense. How do you 'retire' the ACNP degree? I don't understand....
- Feb 21, '12 by juan de la cruzhollyw22,
This is really a poorly executed move on ANCC's part but a change none of us can do much of anything to reverse. The first thing I would do if I were you is to speak to your program director and ask what changes your school is doing to update the current ACNP curriculum to meet ANCC's future A/G ACNP certification. Chances are you'll be given an answer of "we don't know yet". Program directors from the hundreds of Adult Acute Care NP programs across the US are now scratching their heads because all along they thought their respective ACNP programs prepared clinicians who are competent to care for the geriatric population...go figure. Joking aside, this is a real concern.
ANCC has not given exact details of what qualifies graduates of specific programs to achieve eligibility for the new A/G ACNP board certification in 2013. Also, it isn't clear if the ACNP and A/G ACNP are going to co-exist as two different exams until the absolute phase out of the ACNP in 2014 happens. At the same time, ACNP-certified APN's like myself are in the dark in terms of being made aware of details on how we could "upgrade" our ACNP certification to A/G ACNP. ANCC have been remiss in making sure this transition is seamless, something I am not particularly surprised about knowing how the political motivations of national nursing groups appear to hinder our progress rather than enhance it. I can only say that it is somewhat reassuring that the acute care nurse practitioner roles are not going away...just being renamed if you will.
AACN certification remains as another option for ACNP. However, some states do not accept their credentials and who's to say that AACN is not thinking of pulling the same stunt in 2015?Last edit by juan de la cruz on Feb 21, '12
- Feb 21, '12 by traumaRUsJuan - you bring up some valuable points:
1. I emailed ANCC about "upgrading" to a different certification but have never heard back. My guess is that they have thousands of these types of emails.
2. Since this is a Consensus Model, I would bet my morning coffee that it will be across the board from ANCC to AACN.
3. Student NPs should be proactive with their schools and ask LOTS of questions.
4. Who knows what the fallout will be?
- Feb 22, '12 by elkparkQuote from Maggi94V. well said -- I feel exactly the same about my child psych specialty, which is being eliminated in favor of a "lifespan" psych certification only.I'm annoyed too, but for a different reason. You see, I am a GNP. I went through a 30 credit master's program that prepared me to provide care to older adults- a poplulation that by everyone's admission is going to be skyrocketing in the next decades. I did it because frankly, it's always the kind of nursing I wanted to do. And quite honestly, I think that a lot of nurses, NPs included, don't see it that way and would much rather work with younger adults. That's OK- it isn't for everyone.
I'm insulted by folks who think that a semester of content, or a few classes in an FNP/ANP program, prepares them at the same level. I'm sorry, no disrespect to anyone. It is certainly a specialty...one that is going to be desperately needed. We have way too few geriatric NPs and geriatricians to meet the demand- and that's now, not in 20 years. I welcome more people who are "geri" savvy and certified. I just hope that if folks are going to call themselves geriatric NP's, they have the training to back it up.
- Feb 23, '12 by juan de la cruzACNP peeps,
Just as we all feared was coming, the AACN does have a combined Adult-Gero ACNP exam in the works. They're calling it ACNPC-AG (oh, the letters are just killing me!). I have not found any information on when this will come out. There's no hope -we're forced into submission.
- Feb 24, '12 by juan de la cruz...FAQ's answered by AACN re: ACNPC-AG:
the test is being introduced February 2013. The ACNPC credential is being "retired" December 31, 2014. All ACNP students reading this should ask their program directors whether their program qualifies for this test if you foresee a graduation date on or after this time frame.
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- Feb 24, '12 by CCRNDivaWOW! I must say that I am beginning to regret my career choice. I am scheduled to graduate May 2013 if I continue as a full-time student. What happens if I am not able to continue as a full-time student? What certification exam will I be eligible to complete? The most mind-boggling part for me is the fact that neither certifying body has specifically identified the content a student must have to take either exam. All they say is that the courses must be broad based and cover the entire adult spectrum. Well, we've covered the differences in assessment and pharmacology for the older adult. Does that make me eligible? Notice, also, that these new certifications have yet to be approved by the state boards, instead, they are expected to be approved! They have yet to obtain state approval but they have already determined that the current exams and certifications will be retired.
I've spent $20,000 on just this year's tuition to find that I may or may not be eligible to take a certifying exam. What a joke! Maybe I should have pursued the PA or MD/DO route. At least they have their s*** together with a predetermined route to practice. Aaaaargh!
- Feb 24, '12 by juan de la cruzCCRNDiva,
I hear you and totally understand your frustration. On the other hand, maybe there's a slight chance we're overreacting to this development. There's a good amount of ACNP programs out there that will be affected by this change and so far many continue to exist seemingly unfazed by this pending transition. I know the school I attended imposed an admissions moratorium on their ACNP, ANP, and GNP programs (the GNP program, of course, will be gone forever) but that is not the norm everywhere. I bet you all this will all of a sudden come to light by 2013 and ACNP grads would easily qualify for both the AACN and ANCC exams. It may require an additional course or a clinical added to your current curricular plan of work but hey, aren't we all asking for more clinical content anyway?
In the end, I think it will be alright. I actually think that you guys are better off because you have a chance to get the new certification whereas we old timers have the certification that is about to be retired. Lastly, the Acute Care NP role to me, is such a satisfying field to be in and I think you didn't plan on pursuing this if you didn't have a passion for the field. Don't let the politics of nursing question your motivation. Nursing will always be this way but in the end, NP, PA, or MD, we're all going to be in it because we have patients to take care of.
- Feb 25, '12 by CCRNDivaThank you for the encouragement, Juan, and for being my "voice of reason" :redpinkhe. I'm just very frustrated, but you are quite right. I decided to become an ACNP because I felt that it was a much better fit for me. I entered the ICU with the goal of becoming a CRNA. Only after years of critical care nursing did I realize that I love being in the ICU and, while being a CRNA would provide greater financial reward, critical care really does it for me. I like being part of the continuum of care.
I'm also frustrated because we have not received any information or guidance about this Consensus Model situation or how it will affect our ability to obtain certification and licensure from our program director. I'm wondering if I need to drop to part-time status and let them figure out what is going on instead of continuing as a full time student and end up in limbo after graduation. You're absolutely right, I don't mind completing additional clinical hours. I had to hoped to incorporate additional clinical hours or obtain a fellowship to supplement my training anyway. I just want to know what I need to do to reach my goal. I don't like being being in professional purgatory, lol.
Also, it frustrating to see how they are treating you and your colleagues. I think they should be able to tell you what needs to be done for you to obtain the new certification. I also resent the implication that your current level of education is inadequate. How do we know that they won't change the game again 10 yrs from now?
- Feb 26, '12 by hrodgersCCRNDiva - I can not express how much I relate word for word to what you said in that first paragraph. I too had great aspirations of becoming a CRNA, was dead set on getting my 1 year of ICU experience, and then getting into a program. It's really bizarre because in my grad school application I recently submitted for Penn, I think I used the exact words "I didn't realize how much I would love working in the ICU..." Crazy! And admittedly, looking back, I was probably highly drawn by the salary of CRNAs. But here I am, certain that the scope and practice of an ACNP (or A-G ACNP should I say ) is perfect for me!
Anyways, we should definetly stay in touch because I'll be curious what you end up deciding regarding staying full time or slowing down to part time. I am hoping to start the program this summer, and finish in 2014. I've actually thought about prolonging it to 3 years just so that everything will have been decided for certain by the time I graduate and am ready to sit for the boards. (But yikes, 3 years, really?) I feel like in 2014 the 'old' ACNP exam may still be around and if Penns program doesn't adjust to the new guidelines...I also have no idea where that will leave me! I've emailed the program director asking about this, haven't heard back yet.
Ahhh professional purgatory....