Quote from shjoaquin
I have been searching this forum for awhile looking for information on the 520 hours needed to obtain a furnishing number in CA.
My real question is what did this time period look like for you? Were you working in a practice, seeing patients and then the physician would come in and prescribe a drug if necessary? How closely supervised are you during this 6 month period after your basic orientation is done?
Any info would be great. I have all the documents from the brn website as well, but they don't get into the specifics of what this "supervised" time looks like prior to having a furnishing number.
I assume when they talk about physician supervision being within telephone contact that they mean after you are practicing solo with a furnishing and DEA number.
Thanks in advance for any help!
The intelligence of California regulations coupled with the lack of California NP leadership always leaves me scratching my head. AMA/CMA fought hard to specifically remove "prescribing" from the scope for NP's. Since the vast majority of NP's here consider themselves mid level, physician extending medical assistants coupled with the lack of leadership in our state's NP association, there's little outcry. So it goes--we "furnish" or "make medications available. Kind of like a crack dealer, I suppose except they are pretty much autonomous. The only State in the US where NP's can't "prescribe".
The logic for obtaining a furnishing certificate is breathtaking. You need 24 weeks and 520 hours of experience "furnishing" under a physician under SP's. There are no regulations that define any difference between furnishing with a furnishing certificate and furnishing for the 520 hours needed for the furnishing certificate. Both deals require SP's and some level of physician supervision. Here's the best part: You are not permitted to "furnish" unless you have a "furnishing certificate" yet without the "furnishing experience" you can't obtain a "furnishing certificate" Only in the Peoples Republic of California.
For me, it took over a year, because I could only work part time, as I was going through a DNP program. I used both my civilian, police and military NP hours to equal the 520. Also, make sure you take that mickey mouse Schedule II course that CANP offers via CD and submit with your BRN application. Otherwise you won't be able to write for Schedule II's.
Although the BRN cashed my check with 48 hours, it somehow took them an additional 5 weeks to review the three forms I sent with my application before they issued my cert. At least I feel warm knowing my fees help keep people off of unemployment.