Nurses, whats your perspective on working with aides, or nursing students? - page 2
Thanks any one who takes time to read and respond to this. I thought it would be helpful for my perspective ( and possibly others like me) to hear your thoughts on nurse aides or nursing students. I got my cna about a year ago to... Read More
- 2Jan 23, '13 by anotheroneThere is a heirarchy and the rn/ lpn delegates to the aide. a dont bark orders but if i am slamed with nursing tasks and here comes another pt that needs to be walked or help to br and the aide is free i wilk ask them , "can you pleAse help546 to br?" i dont go looming for the aides to do stuff if it is faster for me to do it. i sometimes give them an explanation like i have meds to give or this or that but really i dont owe them one although most expect it.
- 1Jan 24, '13 by Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorWell, there are good nursing students and bad nursing students...and there are good aides and bad aides. My perspective depends on which students/aides I have working with me at the time.
Though generally, I enjoy having students work with me, and there's no way I could get my job done without the help of techs.Last edit by Meriwhen on Jan 24, '13 : Reason: correcting typo
- 0Jan 24, '13 by Destiny'skidThanks for the insight. I certainly agree that cnas need to their job first. I think by the maid thing I was referring to n urses who only come in and give meds and stuff and dont even want to be involved or even hear about the patients. They act like the cna and them are on two different planets or something. As I said these are not the majority of nurses.
I also know many of cnas had a rotten attitude and I dont think it helped. I really feel we were all under staffed and it added to the strain. There were some nurses though who would sit on cell phones behind the counter and refuse to help me walk patients to the bathroom. I think it becomes sensitive for me too because I am almost thirty and the mother of three kids and some of the rudest most condescending nurses were like twenty two.
Some of the rules they had two just seemed ridiculous Like cnas had to stand to chart but nurses could sit down. We were on our feet for the whole time doing heavy lifting! Also cnas had to wear their up but nurses could wear however they wanted. It just seemed like they were trying to create status symbols. Any how I dont work their anymore...
Again, I know many cnas have a rotten attitude, but if I am going to work so hard for so little pay I think I should at least be respected or its not worth it to me, I could probably make more waiting tables.
- 0Feb 2, '13 by AngelicDarknessLove students, aids and psws! Wish I had more of them.
I love teaching students, and encouraging them to look for answers. I love being able to assist them into being molded into the nurse they become because it happened with me not too many years ago.
Aids? Always have my back! Always there when I need them, and not afraid to ask me for help because I don't mind working with them instead of delegating. Holistic care - means I'm capable of putting someone on the toilet or bathing too!
Only downside is when I have someone with a poor attitude or lack the willingness to learn. I look at it as a challenge, but I can't help but think, if they're like this now, will they make the change in their attitude or will they continue on like this?
- 0Feb 2, '13 by mariebailey, MSN, RNQuote from AbbyVincentI think you are exactly right. This noticeably occurs in organizations where the nurses are treated terribly. They, in turn, treat each other & their assistants poorly. The nurses where you work are probably being treated like that by someone else, whether it is the doctors, nurse managers, etc. This doesn't make it okay for you to be treated this way. Be professional, but don't be afraid to stand up for yourself if something gets out of hand. In my 1st job out of nursing school, I didn't exactly hit it off with 1 CNA. After we both had some direct communication, we really worked well together. We remain good friends to this day, even though I moved on in my career. I hope things change for the better for you.I wonder if some of it is a result of societies lack of respect for nurses, so they feel undervalued and somehow take it out on those under them?
- 1Feb 2, '13 by dudette10I had my first student the other day, and she was delightful. Eager to learn, helpful to me. Her classmate, on the other hand, I could have done without. One of my coworkers had her classmate, and my coworker was passive-aggressive to the classmate. I completely understood why, and I regret not taking the classmate aside and giving her the scoop only so that she doesn't act like that anymore. Inappropriate timing to questions, expectations of having equipment at her fingertips when we nurses all struggle with obtaining equipment, an attitude that I can't quite pinpoint why it was annoying, etc.
I've also realized that WHEN I become an instructor, I will leave conferences for end of day. The students would just disappear for an hour at different times, and they really need more time on the floor. That was confusing, although my student tried to keep me updated on when she would be gone.
Also, they were often standing around because they didn't know what to do. I whispered to a group of them that they can answer call bells, and it would be helpful. They did, although I take no responsibility for the reactions of the other nurses when the students delivered the call bell messages from patients. :/ Unfortunately, my willingness to teach and give them guidance meant that I became the Pied Piper with nursing students following me around everywhere near the end of shift. It came in handy on an enema and sacral dressing change for a bedbound patient, though!