Male nurses dominate b/c they are Male? - page 3

i work in an area where there are more male nurses then any other place I have worked. Don't get me wrong, this is not a bad thing. I just noticed recently, that the men are being chosen to supervise more often then females.... Read More

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    Quote from dria
    if you take a job, you take all the related responsibilities.
    agreed.. but can you tell me you've never overestimated yourself before.. especially if it means more pay? :spin: kids are a labile commitment - as years pass, they may want and need more or less of your time. this applies equally to mothers and fathers, if both are present (the nuclear family model is becoming increasingly irrelevant, i'll admit) and the structure of the relationship dictating who does was re: parenting.


    that being said, that does not make me insensitive toward the demands of balancing work and family, and have, and will continue to, help those colleagues who have conflicts when my schedule permits.
    your freedom from parenting/marriage commitments gives you more flexibility with your time. all other things being equal between you and another candidate, i'd pick you for that reason.

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    didn't mean to imply that i am some sort of time-management goddess (far from it!)
    looking back, i think i misunderstood your original post....sorry about that...

    your freedom from parenting/marriage commitments gives you more flexibility with your time. all other things being equal between you and another candidate, i'd pick you for that reason.


    i understand to a point what you're saying, and where you're coming from. however, the fact of the matter is making a hiring decision between two equally qualified applicants that is based soley on maritial or parental staus is discriminatory and illegal.
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    Quote from dria
    your freedom from parenting/marriage commitments gives you more flexibility with your time. all other things being equal between you and another candidate, i'd pick you for that reason.


    i understand to a point what you're saying, and where you're coming from. however, the fact of the matter is making a hiring decision between two equally qualified applicants that is based soley on maritial or parental staus is discriminatory and illegal.
    woo, dria i think we beat the drift problem right there

    there is a lot that goes into eligibility for a position. preference based on sex or race is discriminatory and illegal. preference based on marital or parental status is definitely discriminatory, but seems to sit in a slowly filling legal vacancy.

    maybe someone who knows the laws would be better off explaining this, but from what i've read (remember that the internet is not your lawyer) there is no law that explicitly prohibits discrimination based on marital or parental status. the family and medical leave act has protections for people caring for their families and taking leave in doing so, and there are provisions about keeping your job as a new mother, but that seems to be the limit of it.

    on the upside, it seems that individual lawsuits pressed by smart lawyers have seen a lot of success, though lawsuits aren't the greatest vehicle for social change..

    so while it's not fair to say men dominate because they're men, there are ancillary qualities inherent to the male role in our modern culture that appeal them more to employers.


    i don't mean to drive everyone off this thread, and i would love to be proven wrong (it would mean things aren't quite so lousy as i imagine them to be.)
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    we're both right on this one...

    it's correct that there is no sweeping federal law similar to the ada that prohibits this practice. however, laws have been enacted at the state level in approximately 50% of the states, and the civil service reform act of 1978 prohibits this practice among federal (civilian) employers. there has been some talk of amending title vii of the civil rights act of 1964 to protect against marital status discrimination.

    i'm not even to get into how hard i think it would be to prove such a claim...


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