RN Mom: Where Do Nurses Live in New York City? - page 2
by LotusRN1972 | 9,446 Views | 34 Comments
Hello Everybody!!!:D I am moving to the Big Apple along with my 4 kids and 2 pups. I am a single mom and would like to work with a travel agency (that provides housing) in NYC or land a job at Mt. Sinai or NYPH. My question is:... Read More
- 1Nov 24, '12 by Scooby-Dooby-DooHi LotusRN1972!
I'm coming from CA too! (San Francisco) And new grad jobs here is a nightmare, even with BSN folks like me. I'm 22 and single and willing to take the dare devil risk in looking to NY as well. I'll send you a PM if I have more questions about housing! The NY community has been very friendly and supportive oh and happy 40th!
- 2Nov 24, '12 by DoGoodThenGoIf you are moving to NYC with school aged children you might as well know another ugly truth about the NYC metro area regarding education.
Generally taxes are lower in NYC but the public schools in many areas leave much to be desired, in fact many would call the locally zoned grade, middle and high schools horrible. Parents with means send their children to private schools the cost of which offsets what they are paying in lower taxes.
OTHO one can move to Westchester, New Jersey, Long Island and pay more in taxes but live in a area where the locally zoned public schools are good to great to excellent.
In Manhattan the handful of great to excellent public grade to middle schools are always full with waiting lists. However that does not stop middle or working class parents from "working" the system to get their children in, sometimes it works but often it does not. Of the NYC high schools the top tier such as Stuyvesant enterance depends upon exam scores.
So what this all boils down to is yes, you might find a great apartment/house in say Williamsburg or Red Hook but you probably won't be sending your children to the locally zoned school. Indeed the "problem" with the gentrification by middle class and or upscale families (mainly white) to parts of Brooklyn and Queens is that by and large they still return to Manhattan for their healthcare needs and often do not send their children to local public schools if they can afford different.
One of the first questions anyone with children will ask a real estate agent here in NYC (or find out one their own) is the quality of the local public schools. Parents often base their real estate choices based upon the education system. Private school tuition and expenses like every thing else here cost dear, and not every family can afford that sort of outlay especially if they have more than one child so they hunt out the best public school options.
In parts of Manhattan at least (Upper East and Westsides, The Village, etc..) so many parents sent their children to private schools that the local public ones (which are often excellent) have slots open. Well they did anyway until Manhattan became the new suburb and word got out. Now out of area parents try to seek waivers to get their children in and or use a variety of other tricks.
- 0Groovy Solidus_Snake!!!
I remember 22; eons ago. Thank you for the great 40 wishes!!!
I am having a slight mental breakdown; I have been getting work at nursing agencies in San Diego, my rent is due, and my check is not in mail....this has been my life since I became an RN here...
So your left this joint or are in the process of leaving; I am waiting for my NYS license. I will PM you...got bookoo questions!!!
- 1Nov 24, '12 by Meriwhen, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorQuote from DoGoodThenGoTrue that. My parents opted to send me and my sibling to parochial school from the start because the local public schools (Lower East Side) were sketchy at best. Did that for 9 years, then got into Stuyvesant--otherwise they would have put me in a Catholic high school to finish out.In Manhattan the handful of great to excellent public grade to middle schools are always full with waiting lists. However that does not stop middle or working class parents from "working" the system to get their children in, sometimes it works but often it does not. Of the NYC high schools the top tier such as Stuyvesant enterance depends upon exam scores.
Lower and middle schools are zoned based on where you live and as DoGood said, the good schools are in demand so waivers are not easy to come by. High schools offer some flexibility: your child doesn't have to attend your zoned school and can apply to most other city high schools without having to take a test for them (the specialized high schools that require testing are an entirely different story). However, acceptance outside of your zoned school is not guaranteed.
- 0Thanks DoGoodThenGo!!!
I have an 18 year old son and twin 15 year olds; a girl and boy. My oldest son's friend is living with us. My teens will be in the 10th grade; do most nurses send their kids to private schools; this may be an option. I have a lot to consider. Thanks again!!!
- 1Nov 24, '12 by estrellaCRNYC is also quite difficult in terms of new grad RN jobs. It takes many months to get interviews and hired, even if you have BSN and healthcare related experience. However if you have years of experience like Lotus1972 it is a lot easier.
If you are new grad, It is best if you wait until you are hired before moving to NYC unless you can get a non-nursing job in NYC while you wait to get and start a nursing job. Its not good to be broke in the city. The area including all boroughs of NYC (Queens, Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Staten Island) and New Jersey is full of new grads as several schools of nursing graduate hundreds of students each year and takes a while to get a job.
The process of getting a nursing job is speeded up considerably if you have connections (people you know that work in a hospital) or you yourself have your foot in the door already if you worked as a tech or another job at a hospital during nursing school. You can also look at insurance companies, who often hire new grads for chart auditor positions, etc. There are also flu shot clinics but those are per diem position and you cannot pay rent/expenses with the pay you get.
- 0Thanks estrellaCR,
As a new grad, I started to do what the other kids were doing: applying at hospitals in new grad programs and working at ANY job that would take me: from rehab centers,dialysis clinics, urgent care facilities,flu clinics, health fairs, and LTAC facilities; I WERKED cuz I had mouths to feed. I am signed up with several travel agencies, so I really feel good about that... Thanks again
- 3Nov 25, '12 by DoGoodThenGoIt is hard to say what "most" nurses who are parents do as each has different financial circumstances.
A nurse (male or female) who is married to a physican or hedge fund manager (male or female) are likely to have different ideas about the education of their children than say nurses who are married to members of the NYPD or NYFD.
From my own experiences of both Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Manhattan, middle-class parents where one or both are middle class will either send their children to the local public school or Catholic/religous/private school.
Keep in mind the average annual RN wages in the NYC metro area (>$75K per year) without overtime is hardly *rich* around here. If both the nurse and his or her spouse pull around the same that comes to only $150K per year before taxes. After losing about 1/3 to taxes (we pay quite allot around here) it can be a stretch at times. Happily nurses can usually pick up shifts for OT (or they used to before the world went mad recently) that helped with the family kitty.
It is good that your children are older which means you can be (hopefully) flexible in terms of shifts and or working overtime. As others have said it can be hard landing a nursing gig in NYC at the moment, so there is a good chance a job offered might not be your *dream* but a girl's gotta do what she's gotta do until something better comes along.
- 1Nov 26, '12 by ProfRN4Welcome to NY (almost)! It really is a wonderful place, once you get used to the hustle and bustle, traffic and bad parking :/. The plus side is all of the entertainment, restaurants and diversity... It is VERY diverse, and your patients will be a great representation of that
Much of what was said already is spot on, regarding neighborhoods and expenses. I've lived here all of my life, so I'm used to it. Regarding "good" and "bad" neighborhoods, it's all relative (and can be subjective). I know people who wouldn't dream of living in my area, and yet, there are people who couldn't touch the rent or mortgage in my area. People make assumptions about certain neighborhoods because of who lives there; in NYC, there are many areas that are heavily clustered by race,m ethnicity or religion (Jewish, Asian, Hispamic, etc). The reality is, you may be right at home in a neighborhood like this. Or. You may not. So it's hard to say own at would be the best neighborhood for you.
Most of NYC is accessible via public transportation, except Staten Island, and certain parts of queens (where there are buses, that you'd have to take to a train). But if you live that far out, you can work on Long Island, where there are plenty of hospitals (not sure about agency affiliations though). Parking at hospitals in NYC is tough: you either rely on street parking, or pay a hefty fee to park in a lot (if there is room in the lot, or you have the 'privilege' of using it). Long Island hospitals are much better for parking.
If you have any questions, pm me. I've worked in many places, and know lots of nurses (being a professor). I also am in the process of navigating the school system for high school (for my own child).Last edit by ProfRN4 on Nov 26, '12
- 0Nov 26, '12 by LotusRN1972Whoa ProfRN4!!!
I absolutely love culture( as we say in New Orleans "cul'chuh"), I speak Spanish ( not to the point of translating, but I get by), I practice Buddhism and Hinduism, love authentic foods of the world, and am as county as all out doors (I know how to " Let grown folk talk").
Thank you so much for giving me the scoop!
I'll talk to you soon