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When I externed at Presbyterian Hospital in Albuquerque, the General Surgery Unit was 1 to 4, but sometimes they went over that to 1 to 5. I heard that they have changed to having 1 tech for each nurse, and I wonder if that means you have to take more patients. I know that SAC and ICUs have lower ratios, but most med/surg units have up to 1 to 8.