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May 27, 2008 04:31 PM

pneumocephalus

by labman

Hey Neuro RNs

I have a ming boggling question for you. It really has me going for a loop. When a patient on our unit has a pneumocephalus on our unit some of the neurosurgeons order patient to lie flat and to be on 100% non rebreather oxygen mask.

My question is I just do not get the pathophysiology of this at all or how it decreases pneumocephalus. Someone please help me.

kent


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No. 1
from JW-RN
Old May 31, 2008, 10:31 AM
Updated May 31, 2008 at 10:34 AM by JW-RN

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some of our surgeons request that we use high flow oxygen for our pneumocephalic pt's as well. this is a controversial practice. there are a few studies out there, here's a link to the most recent:

http://thejns.org/doi/abs/10.3171/JN...ournalCode=jns

this study makes it sound like it works (and it very well may) but look at their population size. ;-)
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from labman
Old May 31, 2008, 10:45 AM

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i like it but I bet it is hard to find participants for this study. It is kind of a rarity I have only seen one case since I have been in Neuro ICU. I guess it is controversal treatment. In our unit it is controversial too. I guess something that the oxygen is lighter then room air which oxygen takes over that spot and then the oxygen reabsorbs. It still confuses me a little but I got the general concept.

kent
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from santhony44
Old May 31, 2008, 11:29 AM

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This is peripheral to what you're discussing, but years ago, pneumoencephalograms were sometimes done: CSF was removed and oxygen introduced in order to provide contrast for x-rays. I remember that from school but never actually saw one done. They were pretty much abandoned when CT scans and MRIs were developed. I actually did a short Google search of the term to see if there was any information that addressed labman's question, but I didn't find anything.

I did take care of quite a few patients who had myelograms done, "back in the day" and know how bad the headache can be from losing just a small amount of CSF; I can't imagine how hideous a pneumoencephalogram must have been. We kept our myelogram patients flat and pushed fluids for 24 hours but occasionally one would think it was cute to "cheat" and sneak up to the bathroom; they very often lived to regret it.
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No. 4
from JW-RN
Old May 31, 2008, 01:37 PM

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it's not as rare as you think... i'd say that approx 50% of our crani for tumor pt's experience this post-op.

and this is coming from one of the top ranked neurosurg programs (sadly) lol
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No. 5
from labman
Old Jun 01, 2008, 12:49 AM

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Well I have worked in our Neuro ICU for around 5-6 months and this is the first time they have found a patient (or atleast one I have taken care of have this) unless they failed to tell me in report or they let the patient reabsorb the pneumo.
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No. 6
from canoehead
Old Jun 01, 2008, 01:36 AM

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We diagnose this at least once an hour in our ER, and rarely use oxygen. The patients are usually happy with a couple of Percocet, and come back regularly.

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No. 7
from GrnHonu99
Old Jun 08, 2008, 04:26 AM

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we see it here and there, in fact, my pt. last week had quite a bit of air. 100% Fio2 x24hrs..blow it out..
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