Unwillful Mandation How legal is it??

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    I am currently working at a facillity that continiously uses mandation as a resolution to their staffing issues. I am stuggling to find out if there are any labor laws against this. The mandation has occurred many, many times to every RN in our critical care unit. Last Christmas myself and a co-worker were mandated to work 16 hours. No upper management were there. No compensation was offered and we were also told if we didnt come back in for our 7am shift the next day we would be penilized our holiday pay. Is this happening all across the state? Is this common practice at other facillities? Some one please help if you know of any laws or if you can tell me if its like this everywhere like the management tells us. Thanks. Nurse Loo
    Last edit by Nurse Loo on Dec 10, '07
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    OMG, Dearborn? We work for the same system my friend. Same happens in the Taylor facility also. We usually find out we're mandated 30minutes prior to shift change. The awful truth....it's usually because they want to admit to our ICU. The patients are not even ICU patients half the time either. It's a sad state of affairs, but true. Hospitals make money. Nurses go into the profession to not just make a living, but also to help people. Hospitals open and remain functioning for profit. How would any of you nurses out there like to work and ICU/IMC unit with a ratio of 1RN to 3pt ICU and 1RN to 6 pts IMC? Oh yes, no desk secretary or nurse assistant either? Any takers? We were told, "refuse to stay 16hour and take the 3 more admits, or you are all FIRED!" Don't even want to know what will happen for Christmas. Everyone was mandated last year too. We are considering class action lawsuit. Quite honestly I don't know what the laws are regarding RN's. However, I am going to research it. If I find anything more, I'll pass it along. Good luck. Oh yes....Service First baby lol
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    Michigan is an at will employment state. They can fire you and hire you for what ever reason and they have the right. The unions are there to help you out but unions have no power anymore.
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    Quote from hair_tie
    Michigan is an at will employment state. They can fire you and hire you for what ever reason and they have the right. The unions are there to help you out but unions have no power anymore.
    Hi there, ever heard of seiu for lpns or michigan nurses assocation for rns these are two unions but because nurses refuse to strike and allow foreign nurses to work, these nurses cannot afford to become involved in politics of nursing o therefore they dont and wont retrubute against employers. Hairtie welcome to the world of nursing i have being in the game for over 10 years its a throatslitting sc u type of thing dog eat dog it isnt like back in the oldenen days when people went into nursing because they wanted to help the ill/hurt people now its for the job,the money, Hey become a nurse youll have a job forever. that what i here out there sometimes and also hey population is getting older living longer a person working at att makes amuch as a nurse 22/23a hour so why should anyone want to be a nurse? Nursing is a business , Its a crying shame , well thats my opinion hello america and goooday to you all P.S. Be care ful bosses dont like unions,nor the people who endorse them, these nurses are generaaly backballed from jobs and and do other non medical realated jobs because of it be carefull your just starting out in this field take care dear hairtie:spin:
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    Quote from Nurse Loo
    I am currently working at a facillity that continiously uses mandation as a resolution to their staffing issues. I am stuggling to find out if there are any labor laws against this. The mandation has occurred many, many times to every RN in our critical care unit. Last Christmas myself and a co-worker were mandated to work 16 hours. No upper management were there. No compensation was offered and we were also told if we didnt come back in for our 7am shift the next day we would be penilized our holiday pay. Is this happening all across the state? Is this common practice at other facillities? Some one please help if you know of any laws or if you can tell me if its like this everywhere like the management tells us. Thanks. Nurse Loo
    My Instructor is also a part time RN in ICU at a similar location, she has mentioned the Nurse Practice Act, and as students we were required to read up on it. I don't know if it will help you, but look in to it. If you feel you are not safe, maybe you can use this? I am still in school, but you have enlightened me on what goes on, once I am out there in a short while. I was leaning toward ICU/Cardiology as an area of interest.
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    Quote from rntoben2008
    My Instructor is also a part time RN in ICU at a similar location, she has mentioned the Nurse Practice Act, and as students we were required to read up on it. I don't know if it will help you, but look in to it. If you feel you are not safe, maybe you can use this? I am still in school, but you have enlightened me on what goes on, once I am out there in a short while. I was leaning toward ICU/Cardiology as an area of interest.
    A nurse has the right to refuse, but the employer has the right to terminate. Most nurses have families to support, but tyvm :spin:
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    this is also an on going process at the facility im working in did any body find the real answer to the mandation is it llegal or not i have had it .


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