MDS Coordinators/ RN or LPN Assessment Coordinators - page 4

i would like to use this thread to discuss mds tips and answer questions. please post any and all types of questions on mds's from how to ?'s to salary ?'s. i will begin by asking the the following... Read More

  1. by   Nascar nurse
    Quote from 2longasn
    When I took over this position the late transmissions were at 25% and now it is @ 11.34 % less than a year a later. There are also improvements noted in scheduling of the MDS assessments.

    Wow! This would be TOTALLY unacceptable in my facility. It is an absolute expectation that there be no late assessments ever w/ no excuses. How late are they? Aren't you getting default rates for all the days you are late? What are your scheduling issues? Maybe one of us could help with this.
  2. by   2longasn
    Quote from Nascar nurse
    Wow! This would be TOTALLY unacceptable in my facility. It is an absolute expectation that there be no late assessments ever w/ no excuses. How late are they? Aren't you getting default rates for all the days you are late? What are your scheduling issues? Maybe one of us could help with this.
    THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY. SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION VERY FEW ARE ARE MORE THAN THAN 30 DAYS LATE. ACTUALLY RUG SCORES ARE IMPROVED DUE THE CAPTURING OF MORE EXTENSIVE SERVICES AND IMPROVED SUBMISSION DATES . THE SCHEDULING ISSUE WAS READMITT, PPS ASSESSMENTS WERE BEING TRANSMITTED IN LIEU OF OBRA ASSESSMENTS. WHAT A MESS!!!!
    NOW THAT THE STATE IS PENALIZING FOR LATE TRANSMISSIONS AT 19% OR MORE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THIS FACILITY'S PROCESS WAS NEEDED.
    I APPLAUD YOU AT YOUR FACILITY WITH NO LATES AT ALL. THIS IS MY GOAL. IF I REMAIN IN THIS POSITION IT WILL BECOME REALITY.
    ALL IN ALL A PRETTY GOOD YEAR. I KNEW ABOUT THE MDS AS FAR AS CAREPLANNIN/RAPS/AND CODING. BUT HAD LITTLE KNOWLEGE OF WHAT MDS COORD. WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR.:smackingf I TRULY ENJOY THIS SITE AND HAVE GOTTEN A FEW GOOD TIPS FROM THE POSTS. AGAIN THX FOR YOUR REPLY. BEING A LITTLE ANAL AND A LITTLE PARANOID ARE TRAITS THAT ARE DEFINITELY SUITED FOR THIS POSITION.
    Last edit by 2longasn on May 13, '07 : Reason: TYPO
  3. by   Rizpah
    2longasn - If you want to, PM me your email and I will try to send you the tracking tools I use at my facility. We have "maybe" 2 late assessments a year and that usually happens when we are training someone new into the MDS process and they don't understand the issue of which dates have to be used. I am the one in our facility who is responsible to do the scheduling of the MDS' and this system has worked for me for almost 10 years.
  4. by   JPR12
    We used a private company www.harmony-healthcare.com
    that does medicare, Medicaid and rehabilitation consulting and not only did they do training at our facility but also onsite training and have revenue enhancement programs that increased average facilities Part A and case mix revenue by over $30k per month.
  5. by   RNBLUV
    Hello there! I'm new to both this forum and my position of MDS Coordinator. I noted you have tracking forms. I am seeking any assistance available as I embark on a new journey in my life. If you would be willing to share any helpful hints/tips I would be most appreciative. Thanks!!!!
  6. by   nursy711
    I have a Quarterly question.. I know the R2B has to be at least Q92 days, but what is the earliest you can set the ARD? I cant seem to find the answer to that question in the Manual.
  7. by   2longasn
    Quote from nursy711
    I have a Quarterly question.. I know the R2B has to be at least Q92 days, but what is the earliest you can set the ARD? I cant seem to find the answer to that question in the Manual.
    I have not seen rules about how early quarterlies can be transmitted. I usually try not to schedule more than 7 days prior to the previous r2b or vb4 dates, to accomodate holidays and weekends. Otherwise you run the risk of ruining your schedule and there are only 2 things that are allowed to reek havoc on my schedule 1. a significant change and 2. an ard change for a more accurate rug.
    Last edit by 2longasn on Aug 27, '07
  8. by   flashpoint
    I try to submit all of my quarterly and annual assessments on the first allowable day. It doesn't always work because the first day falls on a weekend or a holiday or there is a computer glitch or something, but more often than not, they go in as soon as they can. The 5, 14, and 30 day assessments are the only ones I will use grace days for...there can be a huge difference in reimbursement if you submit a 5 day on day 8 because of the extra therapy days you can pick up...on the other hand you can get good reimbursement if you submit a 5 day on day 3 if you are able to capture an IV from acute care.

    I was going to take the AANAC class in October but my corporate supervisor wants me to wait until I have a few months under my belt...
  9. by   CITCAT
    iam interested inlearning how to do MDS in Ltc in michigan can anyone give me a website or book thank you
  10. by   paulRN216
    The best (in my opinion) way to learn MDS is to do the classes provided by AANAC *American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators* and to read the RAI manual.

    www.aanac.org

    :icon_cheesygrin:
  11. by   marymack57
    Quote from Susie_Nurse
    I also do MDS's in my facility. I am curious as to what other MDS Coordinator's are making. I recently asked for a raise and was laughed at. I make mid LPN wage and have been doing the MDS's for 5 years. Recently the Coordinator quit and I was moved into the position, not exactly by choice. I am now the only one in the facility that does them so I figured, what the hey, I'll ask for a raise. The new management doesn't understand the importance of doing the MDS's or why we even do them. She just knows there's money involved. Help.
    I am DNS, but our MDS coordinators, though they are both RNs, make almost as much as I do per hour.
    By the way, I am a former MDS coordinator. They deserve every penny they make, and probably more.
  12. by   angelrose
    Thanks for the info I've only done mds for 6mo and still try to figure out the best way to figure out the info and what to concentrate on I'm certified but that doesn't help much
  13. by   marymack57
    Quote from angelrose
    Thanks for the info I've only done mds for 6mo and still try to figure out the best way to figure out the info and what to concentrate on I'm certified but that doesn't help much
    Never think you can't learn something new, and always ALWAYS stay on top of what your therapies are doing. LOL At least I found these to be true. Does your facility belong to a large corporation, or is it a stand alone (private owned) facility? I know this tends to make a difference in salary for management staff. The one thing I enjoy about working in a facility that is owned by a big corporation is that we have LOTS of education resources and that is definitely a plus for an MDS coordinator. However, I was told when I took the MDS position that I'd better treat the RAI manual as if it were my second Bible, and I did. I've never had a question about the assessment/RAPS/Care Plan process that the RAI couldn't answer.

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