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Are there any nusing graduates from Johns Hopkins or University of Maryland who would share their educational experience and pros/cons of the nursing program?? Thanks, im debating the to... Read More

  1. Visit  Varadex profile page
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    I would choose University of Maryland if you are getting your BSN because if you are in state, tuition is overall 60-70K cheaper. The skills you learn for a BSN are quite technical, and can be taught at any institution you go to. If you were deciding between MSN programs, I would go for Hopkins because the networking opportunities, and the management/master's education you get will be superior to Maryland's, and their prestigious name can open a lot of doors for you. If you know you are going to get your MSN after your BSN, then spend less money now, and then choose to go to a more superior MSN program in the future. I got into both programs, and it was quite a difficult decision for me to make. Think about your financial situation. If you can afford to pay back 60-70K in loans, then by all means, Hopkins is the slightly superior choice. But just to be able to say you went to Hopkins is not worth the struggle to pay back the tution after you graduate. RN's start off with a salary of 45-55K. 20K versus 90K debt is a lot easier to pay back with that type of starting salary. But the pluses of Hopkins are that the staff is absolutely amazing. The private school atmosphere is welcoming and they have a "leave no nurse behind" policy. Their retention rate for their school is exceptionally high (98%), versus at UMSON it is high 80's to 90%. You really have to be able to advocate for yourself to succeed at UMSON. Hopkins will do everything in their power to make sure you don't fail a class. At UMSON, it is not foreign to hear that a fellow classmate has failed a course and has to repeat. Also, UMSON has a much younger class, many of which are getting their first BSN, and are in-state residents from Maryland. At Hopkins the average age is 28, the students are from all over the nation, and 80% already have one BSN degree. Your global opportunities at Hopkins are exceptional. You can choose to do a rotation abroad your 2nd year for 7 weeks, and can go abroad over the summer. At UMSON, it would take a lot more work to go abroad, but you could still do it. Basically, UMSON is the more economical choice, offering you a great education and a high NCLEX pass score. Hopkins give you a prestigous name, an exceptional education and an equally good NCLEX score. Either school will give you great clinical opportunities across Maryland and D.C., and a job with the same salary at the end of the day if you want to be a clinical nurse. Hopkins may open up more doors if you move outside of Maryland in terms of management positions once you get your MSN. The bottom line is your opinion of prestige over debt. Hope this helps!
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  2. Visit  erikab987 profile page
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    Not sure how many people this will reach, since the post is old, but...
    Yes JHU has a huge name in the US, BUT...check your facts: U of M School of Nursing is rated higher AND is more competitive than JHU.

    That's all.
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  3. Visit  IckuRN profile page
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    I saw several "if you work there, then they pay..." posts, other hospitals have to pay more to get you in and some of them also pay 100% tuition. JHU and UMMC are the lowest paying facilities in the city, correct me if I'm wrong!
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  4. Visit  erikab987 profile page
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    You're wrong. My sister, new grad RN at U of M, makes more than her best friend who works at Sinai and 100% tuition reimbursement towards her graduate. Sinai's reimbursement caps out at $5000/yr.
  5. Visit  Jaysie1 profile page
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    I think you can compare new grad salaries for weeks, but salary alone doesn't determine the value of the work placement. Does the nursing staff support and nurture its new hires? Does the hospital have a reputation for excellent patient safety? How about that particular unit? Do they have state of the art equipment? Interdisciplinary staffing? Ongoing research?

    The point is, both UMB and JHU have nursing programs ranked in the top 10 nationally. Both programs will prepare their nurse graduates for employment. It is up to the students to search out the best opportunities at the best hospitals, and most of the competitive new grad positions will be filled based on the interview or clinical evaluations, not which program the student attended. You can't go wrong. Do your research and make the choice that is right for you. And then...go out there and be the best nurse you can be!
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  6. Visit  Jules A profile page
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    Quote from CNLstudent
    I think you can compare new grad salaries for weeks, but salary alone doesn't determine the value of the work placement. Does the nursing staff support and nurture its new hires? Does the hospital have a reputation for excellent patient safety? How about that particular unit? Do they have state of the art equipment? Interdisciplinary staffing? Ongoing research?

    The point is, both UMB and JHU have nursing programs ranked in the top 10 nationally. Both programs will prepare their nurse graduates for employment. It is up to the students to search out the best opportunities at the best hospitals, and most of the competitive new grad positions will be filled based on the interview or clinical evaluations, not which program the student attended. You can't go wrong. Do your research and make the choice that is right for you. And then...go out there and be the best nurse you can be!
    I don't put any particular nursing school or hospital up on a pillar especially since I have worked with some less than stellar new graduates from popular schools that have come into nursing with no experience and advanced degrees. They all have pros and cons. Keep in mind that impressive reputations aren't always all they are cracked up to be when you actually get behind the scenes. It does a disservice to patients and is an insult to professional nurses not to pay experienced RNs a competitive wage in an effort to retain them. That "nurturing" of new grads seems more like staffing the units with cheap labor who will be gone in a year or two while taxing your core staff, imo.
  7. Visit  TF4L10 profile page
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    I worked through the same dilemma. I was looking to enter in the Spring and Hopkins starts in May. I was accepted to UMB but ultimately I went to Georgetown and despite a killer commute, I got a killer scholarship which garauntees me a job and I couldn't be happier.
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    hey TFL410--did you get the washington hospital scholarship or another one? are you really happy with georgetown?
  9. Visit  rort profile page
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    Just to add my two cents, being a Hopkins grad myself (BSN). Would I do it again? No. The name is huge, sure, but the price tag is ridiculous ($65,000 for a 13.5 month program) and the professors, honestly, were not great. Clinical groups are large, and Hopkins has been accepting larger and larger classes, but doesn't have the physical space or the clinical instructors to handle these numbers, so groups are getting bigger which means less learning opportunities for the student nurse.

    As far as getting the opportunity to learn at Johns Hopkins Hospital, one of the best in the nation, let me point out that not all Hopkins students have clinicals at Hopkins (I had a few at other area hospitals), and other schools also do clinicals at Hopkins.

    Honestly, Hopkins may be worth it for graduate studies, but it is certainly not worth it for the BSN and I would not recommend doing the combined there because I feel the BSN portion was so poorly run. Many of us felt like it was a well-oiled machine to crank students in and out. Why are Hopkins stats so great? Because they only accept those of us type A, highly motivated individuals who would have succeeded and done equally well at any other school...but with less debt. Go to University of Maryland, which is also recognized as a great nursing school and learning hospital, and get the same degree, same jobs offers, and less debt.
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    Quote from rort
    Just to add my two cents, being a Hopkins grad myself (BSN). Would I do it again? No. The name is huge, sure, but the price tag is ridiculous ($65,000 for a 13.5 month program) and the professors, honestly, were not great. Clinical groups are large, and Hopkins has been accepting larger and larger classes, but doesn't have the physical space or the clinical instructors to handle these numbers, so groups are getting bigger which means less learning opportunities for the student nurse.

    As far as getting the opportunity to learn at Johns Hopkins Hospital, one of the best in the nation, let me point out that not all Hopkins students have clinicals at Hopkins (I had a few at other area hospitals), and other schools also do clinicals at Hopkins.

    Honestly, Hopkins may be worth it for graduate studies, but it is certainly not worth it for the BSN and I would not recommend doing the combined there because I feel the BSN portion was so poorly run. Many of us felt like it was a well-oiled machine to crank students in and out. Why are Hopkins stats so great? Because they only accept those of us type A, highly motivated individuals who would have succeeded and done equally well at any other school...but with less debt. Go to University of Maryland, which is also recognized as a great nursing school and learning hospital, and get the same degree, same jobs offers, and less debt.
    Hi rort
    I just got accepted to JHU's ABSN 17 month program and I am trying to decide if I should go there or another school here on the west coast. Would it be possible to message you about your experience there? The cost of the two schools is the same so what I am most concerned about is the educational experience and placements. Thanks!!
  11. Visit  gyggles579 profile page
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    Personally, just from a cost perspective I would lean toward UMD. Of course JH has a good name but is it worth the price tag? In my opinion no. Unless you were going to get substantal assistance in the way of scholarships or grants.
  12. Visit  Mslala808 profile page
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    Hello misssrblake... fast-forward six years later, are you happy with your decision? I would have PM'd you but I am new to the site and cannot access that function yet. I am heavily considering both. I have received an acceptance letter from GW (yes, in Virginia); waiting for Hopkins; and will apply for UMD (one or both of their entry into nursing programs) to begin Spring '17 if the financial aid packages don't pan out with the schools I am accepted into this year. Just curious to know if your Hopkins degree/experience was worth the cost? If you are able to PM me, that would be fine too.

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