Young female patients

cpl_dvldog · Feb 27, 2011

oh yeah I forgot, we are still in A&P I, not nursing school lol... Is this not a discussion about males being too afraid to administer peri care on a female? my 2nd patient was scheduled to have a lady partsl myoectomy on the intro day of my rotation, and let me Just say, she was more happy that she had someone that had the confidence and knowledge how to administer the care, rather that having someone who's sole concern is on losing their license. Her lady parts was hemmorahaging And dripping blood, but she couldn't feel anything bc of the analgesic Rx, she needed to be cleaned every 15 mins before the procedure and was npo, two walnut sized fibroids ended up being removed. In short, yes its important to protect your integrity and way you make your living, but your integrity is always protected if you are consistent with your care... this should be seen more as an opportunity to display professional attitudes you learned back in foundations. I apologize for my rudeness in my previous post nonetheless... (but still awaiting smartass response lol)

A male nurse better take all precautions to protect himself when dealing with female patients. A male nursing student better double up those precautions. A patient files a formal complaint with the hospital about a student, the hospital contacts the school and tells them not to send that student back to their hospital, because they are covering their ass. If you think a hospital is going to stand up for a student you are very wrong. If a school cannot send a student to a hospital, for any reason, that is grounds to be removed from the nursing program.

If you want to be foolish and throw caution to the wind by not protecting yourself, be my guest. Being kicked out of school or having charges filed against you does nobody any good.

cmgambit · Feb 28, 2011

a male nurse better take all precautions to protect himself when dealing with female patients. A male nursing student better double up those precautions. A patient files a formal complaint with the hospital about a student, the hospital contacts the school and tells them not to send that student back to their hospital, because they are covering their ass. If you think a hospital is going to stand up for a student you are very wrong. If a school cannot send a student to a hospital, for any reason, that is grounds to be removed from the nursing program.
If you want to be foolish and throw caution to the wind by not protecting yourself, be my guest. Being kicked out of school or having charges filed against you does nobody any good.

the awesome thing about my school is that not only is it private, but the hospitals we rotate at created the school of nursing.... Go on and keep being a coward and only treat males. Unless the pt/family requests otherwise, i'm not going to let gender disrupt my practice. I'll just grab a female cna or lvn to be in there with me. Am i being a jerk on here or something? I really don't get how this conversation has come this far lol. If you can't handle all aspects of the profession, i suggest you strongly consider a different career.

cpl_dvldog · Feb 28, 2011

the awesome thing about my school is that not only is it private, but the hospitals we rotate at created the school of nursing.... Go on and keep being a coward and only treat males. Unless the pt/family requests otherwise, i'm not going to let gender disrupt my practice. I'll just grab a female cna or lvn to be in there with me. Am i being a jerk on here or something? I really don't get how this conversation has come this far lol. If you can't handle all aspects of the profession, i suggest you strongly consider a different career.

Treat only males? Who said that? You are telling us that the hospitals in your area also have a nursing program? That's cool! In my area the hospitals and nursing schools are different entities. Never-the-less, I hightly doubt a hospital is going to represent a student nurse in a sexual assault case. The school will send their attorneys, but only to defend the school, not the student that was too dumb to cover his ass by making sure he had a witness in some situations with female patients.

Ask any Dr. why they have a female witness along when they do a gyno or breast exam on a female patient. It is because their malpractice insurance provider requires it. If Dr's are required, why would a nursing student choose not to? It's just common sense.

If we can't handle all the aspects of the profession? Your awful cocky for someone that is nothing but a student.

cmgambit · Mar 1, 2011

Don't confuse cocky with confidence. Im just trying to pass my classes. Our stupid school makes 76 the passing grade, 70-75 failing and it sucks bc all the other schools are based on the regular scale... is anyone else's like this??? I spoke with my mentor about this conversation and she told me I was an idiot bc I wasn't taking into consideration the patients mental status. Just bc she appears to accept the care, doesn't mean she still can't form a complaint. I'm done with this thread, gotta start studying

Product · Mar 1, 2011

My experience from an ER perspective. Something like an EKG can be done by just about anyone. Techs, respiratory therapists, nurses, etc. If its a situation where obviously the patient is uncomfortable and its not the end of the world to get a same sex person to do it, I say go for it. I have several female nurse friends that express discomfort when they have to cath younger men, especially teenagers. The RN's in my ER dept almost ALWAYS cath same sex. Its just easy to have everyone on the same page. Fact is, we still live in a country that loves to sue, why put your hard earned license on the line for something trivial.

cpl_dvldog · Mar 1, 2011

Don't confuse cocky with confidence. Im just trying to pass my classes. Our stupid school makes 76 the passing grade, 70-75 failing and it sucks bc all the other schools are based on the regular scale... is anyone else's like this??? I spoke with my mentor about this conversation and she told me I was an idiot bc I wasn't taking into consideration the patients mental status. Just bc she appears to accept the care, doesn't mean she still can't form a complaint. I'm done with this thread, gotta start studying

All of the schools in my area consider anything below 75 failing.

Qbert · Mar 1, 2011

All of the schools in my area consider anything below 75 failing.

Same here

KC_to_CALI · Mar 1, 2011

Your job is to help others. If the patient makes you uncomfortable, you're gonna have to deal with it. If you make the patient uncomfortable, you need to find someone that doesn't. This is something that was beat into my head from doing full body assessments at nursing homes up to teaching new mothers how to breastfeed. Good luck bro, I do empathize.

Sidenote- at my school, below an 80 is failing

Trenia · Mar 1, 2011

the awesome thing about my school is that not only is it private, but the hospitals we rotate at created the school of nursing.... Go on and keep being a coward and only treat males. Unless the pt/family requests otherwise, i'm not going to let gender disrupt my practice. I'll just grab a female cna or lvn to be in there with me. Am i being a jerk on here or something? I really don't get how this conversation has come this far lol. If you can't handle all aspects of the profession, i suggest you strongly consider a different career.

Yes. If someone's life isn't on the line at that very second there is no reason not to take precautions. He's having a civil discussion. You're calling him names.

JDPBSN · Mar 2, 2011

Male ACNP student here. I do not perform any procedures on young women, unless an emergency. If I have a female patient, a female is in the room and I speak outloud every step I am taking during procedures, so there is no confusion or misinterpretation. A personal preference, I have found that female nurses respect my position and gladly help.

monsuun · Apr 5, 2011

I find it funny that I've had major surgery twice and had to have a total of a 2 month stay in hospital care. I was operated on by a female doctor and attended to by numerous female nurses and cna's. Not once did any of them ask if I wanted a male to do things instead. I think the sexism angle is a one-way street. I know for a fact that women can be as sexist (if not more) than men. I was having a bed bath one night when one of the cna's made some remarks about my manhood and made some crude jokes to the other female cna that was helping her.

Why should men be watched like hawks, while women given free reign? I DO wish to add, however, that if anyone (male OR female) was caught touching or molesting a patient in an inappropriate manner they should be fired immediately. Then thrown in jail, and beaten, and made the cell block "girl/boy-friend", and people should sit around and think mean thoughts about them, and so on, etc.

cpl_dvldog · Apr 5, 2011

I find it funny that I've had major surgery twice and had to have a total of a 2 month stay in hospital care. I was operated on by a female doctor and attended to by numerous female nurses and cna's. Not once did any of them ask if I wanted a male to do things instead. I think the sexism angle is a one-way street. I know for a fact that women can be as sexist (if not more) than men. I was having a bed bath one night when one of the cna's made some remarks about my manhood and made some crude jokes to the other female cna that was helping her.
Why should men be watched like hawks, while women given free reign? I DO wish to add, however, that if anyone (male OR female) was caught touching or molesting a patient in an inappropriate manner they should be fired immediately. Then thrown in jail, and beaten, and made the cell block "girl/boy-friend", and people should sit around and think mean thoughts about them, and so on, etc.

The reason women can get away with such things is because if it happens to them and they report it, they are a victim. If it happens to a guy and he reports it, he must be gay. It is the same in the military. If a female reports inappropriate behavior they almost shut down the entire base. If a male reports the same thing it must be because he got a bad eval. Every quarter we were required to watch tapes on how not to "cross the line" with females, and the proper procedure for females to report it.