Re: Gay Nurses... help! Originally Posted by carpediem_1271
You're arguing semantics...
If you want to say that being gay is a completely relevant concept then fine, I'm down with that. It is what it is to who it is I suppose. You pitch your own tent and danged if I care what you want to call it. Personally, I think civil unions should apply to everyone and the government should just get out of the "marriage" business altogether but the folks who are the first to argue for the separation of church and state are the folks that argue that marriage (strictly a religious concept) is a civil right...

I don't think that it is merely a matter of labels. It is a complex issue (as are most, when you get right down to it) and it is my opinion that it is more than a matter of who is sleeping with whom and who is putting what where. Too many people seek to reduce the matter of the emotional, spiritual, and financial commitments of a relationship to simple "semantics".
If I understand you correctly, you are positing that marriage is strictly a religious concept. So are you saying that being married by a priest or minister carries NO state sanctioned legal rights, responsibilities, or obligations? It is hard to accept the argument of separation of church and state or marriage being solely a religious concept when it is entrenched in the legal code of all 50 states. Personally, I like the way it is done in some countries where if you want to get married in a religious institution, great, but you still need to have it sanctioned by the state in a separate process to have it carry any legal weight. But I'm an 'equality for everyone' kind of guy.
As with everything I write, this is just my opinion, and I take full responsibility for it (and the typos). Boy, if this thread was off track before, I'm sure I have now completely run it into the ditch!

(Oh, and I think you and I agree on much more than we disagree.)
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