DON fired during state survey - page 3

by americanTrain 8,189 Views | 27 Comments

I got the boot during state survey, not after, in the middle of it all. It came as such a shock that when I got called in and was told I was terminated, I asked to resign,. Did I do the right thing. Now I cant collect... Read More


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    Thank you Marc, your words are kind. Dont think I'll ever be eligible for another DON position though.
    Thats what makes me so sad, I know I shouldnt, but this is what I defined myself by. I worked hard to get to that level. But if starting at the bottom is where Iam at, then so be it. Im still a nurse. I have dreams that they will call me and ask me to take my position back, but I know that will never happen. Still, I'm saddened.
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    Quote from americanTrain
    Thank you Marc, your words are kind. Dont think I'll ever be eligible for another DON position though.
    Thats what makes me so sad, I know I shouldnt, but this is what I defined myself by. I worked hard to get to that level. But if starting at the bottom is where Iam at, then so be it. Im still a nurse. I have dreams that they will call me and ask me to take my position back, but I know that will never happen. Still, I'm saddened.

    Oh, I think your counting yourself out of the game much to quick. If this is what you really want then go for it. In your shoes, I would give it a little time, reflect on what you did right, reflect on where improvements could be made and then eventually apply around and see what happens.

    Unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast that DON's are easily removed from a position and I think the industry just expects this to be the case. When you interview for another DON spot, you just need to sell yourself as to how to improve upon your past and what you plan to do differently the next time.
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    Quote from americanTrain
    Thank you Marc, your words are kind. Dont think I'll ever be eligible for another DON position though.
    Thats what makes me so sad, I know I shouldnt, but this is what I defined myself by. I worked hard to get to that level. But if starting at the bottom is where Iam at, then so be it. Im still a nurse. I have dreams that they will call me and ask me to take my position back, but I know that will never happen. Still, I'm saddened.
    You are not ineligible, not unless you make yourself so. This is the life of the DON, being escorted to their car, with a box of pictures and things. Don's are recycled in certain areas and become a close knit circle. Same with ED's. Get to know others and network. You will start hearing of opportunities. EDs you meet, may offer you a position or at worst, you may be offered an ADON, to get you on your feet. Every DON I know, has been fired or forced res. at one time or another. Give yourself another two weeks to grieve, then get to getting. If you really want to stay a DON, you can and will. Peace!

    Ps- don't forget head hunters. Let them do some leg work for ya.
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    I once worked with a DON who has just been forced to resign from her then current job. She came to our facility and was one of the best if not the best DON we had until her untimely death. Let me just remind you, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Your future is already looking brighter!!!
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    Those are great words of encouragement, but how do I revamp my resume? My lawyer said, what are you going to tell them the reason that you rsigned? Are you going to lie and say that "it just wasnt the right place for me", or are you going to tell the truth and say" they were going to fire me anyway". Then I got alot of explaining to do. They already made me a no rehire. That looks bad on a resume. And if I dont use them, they will find out with a background ck. Either way, its gonna be tough getting back on my feet. I just hope I will find someone who understands and will appreciate my honesty about the situation. I know I cannot speak badly against my former employer and wont. But, in the mean time,,, the well is running dry.
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    Quote from americanTrain
    Those are great words of encouragement, but how do I revamp my resume? My lawyer said, what are you going to tell them the reason that you rsigned? Are you going to lie and say that "it just wasnt the right place for me", or are you going to tell the truth and say" they were going to fire me anyway". Then I got alot of explaining to do. They already made me a no rehire. That looks bad on a resume. And if I dont use them, they will find out with a background ck. Either way, its gonna be tough getting back on my feet. I just hope I will find someone who understands and will appreciate my honesty about the situation. I know I cannot speak badly against my former employer and wont. But, in the mean time,,, the well is running dry.
    1. I would never put "no rehire" or even eligible for rehire on any resume...for any reason. Simply state dates of employment

    2. In my state, employers are only allowed to state dates of employment & I doubt they would find out if you are eligible for rehire based on a background check.

    3. When asked (and you will get asked), just state that you had a difference of opinion with your prior employer and simply felt it wasn't the best fit for your goals related to resident care. I guess I don't consider this to be a lie as you obviously didn't have the same opinions as your prior employer. I've been around a long time & just because it didn't work at that place doesn't necessarily mean that your opinion was the wrong one! What will your co workers say about you from this facility. Do you have someone who will give you a good reference?
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    I worked with a DON who had been fired from 3 other jobs. She was the best DON I ever worked with. Sometimes it IS all about the 'fit'. There was a DON around here who was fired after 3 perfect surveys because the staff complained she was too old fashioned and made them work!?!? Good luck.
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    I just signed up the chat boards and I read your post, how did your lawyers meeting go, any recourse for you with that employer? Your experience did not surprise me, but like the others said they usually wait until after survey not during to let DON's and administrators go, so it sounds like maybe something else was going on. I have been in nursing admin in LTC just a little while but recognize that personal dynamics between players is a big part of LTC management and I have to admit that that is what will make me move on, I can see that coming now. I have always maintained that the quickest way out of a building was to go into management, and I still feel the same way, unfortunately the turnover rate is so detrimental to a building. I was a state surveyor for a while and generally the buildings that did well were those that had a stable admin staff, everything else seemed to just flow from that cohesiveness. I am sorry that you had such a negative experience, all are not like that, but always with management there is the possibility that the game will change and you will no longer fit into the new game plan. Move on, learn from the experience.


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