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- Jul 5, '12 by DoGoodThenGoOne often has the feeling that the nursing profession in the United States is just like a sorority or high school clique. You've got the "popular" girls versus the "unpopular" and neither camp often wants to be bothered with the other.
This amoung other divisions is one of the main reasons the nursing profession struggles for self control. Instead of uniting behind one common set of beliefs/goals, we have all this squabbling over territory.
While RNs and LPNs wage war upon each other hospitals and other facilites are fueling the fire by playing one side against the other. Or, simply getting shot of both professional nurses in favour of expanding the use of UAPs.
States need to look up north to Canada and start rethinking the roles of both LPN and RN with an eye to perhaps allowing the acuity/condition of the patient decide what level of skilled nursing is required.
In many states LPN programs are barely longer than CNAs. Raise the bar a little on LPN programs to two years with a heavy focus on clinical/bedside care. This would fit nicely with the push to make BSN mandatory for entry which is happening anyway via hospital hiring regardless of what state BONS decide. I mean why take a jumped up nursing assistant (sorry for putting it that way, and do not mean to offend) with a few extra courses to do what LPNs already know?
Yes, going for an all professional nurse staffing would cost more on paper, but look at the larger picture of cost savings in terms of patient safety, harm, infections, bedsores, and so forth all of which are increasing in this country.
- Jul 5, '12 by steffuturelpnI Am a new grad lpn in Philadelphia and I love my job at a nursing home\rehab, my pay is great and so is my experience at my job the lpns and rns do the same duties, ivs vacs trachs everything, so I feel highly respected, yes I am getting my rn soon but I would not change the way I did things, my pay is better than new grad rn pay at the local hospitals, and the one that does hire lpns pay is crap, I am perfectly happy where im at and im proud to be a lpn
- Jul 6, '12 by mama_dSadly, in my area at least, LPNs are no longer found in most hospitals...I was one of the lucky ones who was "grandfathered" in at my facility and able to keep working acute care while working towards my ADN. When one of the units in our hospital got rid of their LPNs (the newest had been working that unit for over 15 years, the oldest for 30) and replaced them with brand spanking new BSNs, my manager at the time went to her higher ups and told them flat out that she refused to even entertain the notion of losing her LPNs because "they are part of the backbone of my floor and I'm not losing their experience". It's still the elephant in the room however and I don't think I'll feel true job security until I have my BSN at least.
As to what CLROONEY said...I've been blessed to work with people who value me for what I'm capable of, not just what my degree status is...Last time I had a patient refuse to have me because I was a LPN, my charge nurse that night went in and told him "She got assigned to you because of how sick you are. Your choice is a LPN with over ten years experience or a RN with less than a year's worth. You still want the RN?" Gotta love working with people who will stick up for you.
- Jul 6, '12 by GM2RNI find it interesting that someone would interpret a frank discussion on the current state of affairs as RNs and LPNs waging war on each other and squabbling over territority.
- Jul 6, '12 by DafabbI don't know where you are but I am in Dallas. I have been here almost 10 yrs and seen a big decline in the LVNs in the hospital. Presby,Baylor,HCA wont even hire LVN's. There are many less now in the hospital and when they leave there will be no more. The Hospitals are even starting to not hiring a 2 yr RN. I was fortunate to work agency for many yrs so in that we are seasonal and used. We don't count as employed so their GOLD standard still applies. I have worked in every unit of a hospital for years but am unable to do so these days. I am glad where you are at you still have the choice. Many States are doing the same. We just have to go in other directions. After 35 yrs I am glad to. I want a stress free active job with no one breathing down my neck. Home Health is one of those jobs. I can love and play with my Patients at will. And trust me they love the attention.
- Jul 6, '12 by DoGoodThenGoQuote from GM2RNWas not referring to just this thread but rather the overall converstation nationwide.I find it interesting that someone would interpret a frank discussion on the current state of affairs as RNs and LPNs waging war on each other and squabbling over territority.
- Jul 6, '12 by tothepointeLVNQuote from DafabbThis is so true. I have been called several times by my agency for a hospital in my area but that was discussed on AN as the RN's were having a candlelight vigil to get rid of LVN's and then they made a big hoohaa about their "success." Well they still have LVN's on the floor but now they are paying twice as much.I was fortunate to work agency for many yrs so in that we are seasonal and used. We don't count as employed so their GOLD standard still applies..
I obviously couldn't take the assignment since I ave no acute experience outside of nursing school since the hospitals don't hire LVN's but they are still using them. Also I have a former classmate that just lied about here experience and is working registry in acute care. So if hospital continue to not hire and train and just rely on registry they may end up with an untrained, expensive workforce and this applies to not training new RN's too.
- Jul 13, '12 by Puddin2dayTheCommuter,
Thank you for writing this article. As a soon-to-be LVN student, I needed to read and understand the current climate of LVN/LPNs today.
- Jul 14, '12 by onepowerfulladyI have to be honest, yes, I want to be an RN, however, I am grateful to be a LPN for now. I have a great foundation and it makes nursing school that much easier this time around. We all play a great role in the healthcare team. Get a grip and let's play nice. Enjoy your weekend nurses!
- Jul 14, '12 by scurbroWow. That is all I can say.
I am not an LPN, I am not an RN. I am not even a nursing student yet. I hope to become a Care giver first and get experience for a year or two before I make up my mind. However I have the opportunity to go to school for my BSN. I have said here before I do not want a mountain of debt however I do want the fastest route to nursing. Its either a 1 year LPN program after taking the CNA class and getting all my immunization records complete or its a 4 year BSN program, while working nights as a caregiver.
Or I wait a couple years for now. And move to where I find more nursing programs. I do not know which one to do. I am leaning toward biting the bullet and taking out loans for school, and then applying to scholarships for the time I am in the nursing program.
This is really the dilemma, where to start.
I guess the best thing I can do is get my CNA at least. Still looking at programs in my area.