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considering starting the legal nurse consulting program through kaplan university... any input about their program or LNC in general? also thought about forensic nursing...perhaps both?

considering starting the legal nurse consulting program through kaplan university... any input about their program or LNC in general? also thought about forensic nursing...perhaps both?

Hey mlwRN,

I took the Vicki Milazzo 6 day course. There are some LNCs in our local chapter that went through Kaplan's course (no negative comments from any of them). I am currently enrolled in Kaplan's Forensic Nurse program. I love it. I plan to concentrate on Criminal Cases (domestic violence, child/elder abuse, sexual assault/abuse, and Wrongful death). I'm an Independent consultant and marketing myself is part of my daily routine. I carry extra packets and business cards with me everywhere I go.

legalnurse22 RN, CLNC

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Hey mlwRN,

I took the Vicki Milazzo 6 day course. There are some LNCs in our local chapter that went through Kaplan's course (no negative comments from any of them). I am currently enrolled in Kaplan's Forensic Nurse program. I love it. I plan to concentrate on Criminal Cases (domestic violence, child/elder abuse, sexual assault/abuse, and Wrongful death). I'm an Independent consultant and marketing myself is part of my daily routine. I carry extra packets and business cards with me everywhere I go.

legalnurse22 RN, CLNC

Hello, legalnurse22,:Melody:

It is a challenge to keep up that aggressive market plan, is it not?

About how many cases do you do each month??

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I too am a graduate of Vicky's LNC program. I took my training in Chicago in May of 2004 and have been working successfully as a full-time CLNC since Oct. 2004. I love it! She prepares you well for what this profession requires. "As nurses, we can do anything" is Vicky's motto and she is right. I am a successful CLNC.

Cheryl, RN, RAC-C, CLNC

CD Medical-Legal Consulting, LLC

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Siri:

What does the RLNC after your CLNC mean? I have been looking into LNCC certification v. CLNC. LNCC is recognized ANSB, but CLNC is not and I find that difficult to understand. So, I was just curious what RLNC stands for.

Thanks,

Cheryl, RN, RAC-C, CLNC

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.
Siri:

What does the RLNC after your CLNC mean? I have been looking into LNCC certification v. CLNC. LNCC is recognized ANSB, but CLNC is not and I find that difficult to understand. So, I was just curious what RLNC stands for.

Thanks,

Cheryl, RN, RAC-C, CLNC

Hello, Cheryl,:Melody:

Great to have you in the Legal Nurse forum.

RLNC=Registered Legal Nurse Consultant

Yes, the ABNS (American Board of Nursing Specialities) thinks it has the market on nurse consultants and how they are to be certified. Not so. The Milazzo Inst. is a reputable and recognized institution and will be around for quite a while. The ABNS requires their candidates to have at least 2000 hours within the past three years practicing as an LNC before seeking certification. This is great, but, this certification does not prepare you to be an LNC. It does not require you to have any formal education before certification, just the hours working as an LNC.

I might seek certification with them only to have added certification, but, for no other reason.

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Siri:

There is no question about Vicky's organization at all. That is why I took my training with her institute. I understand that, but my response was based on her certification not being recognized by ABNS and that is all. I think the organization should be recognized, but, at this time, it is not. And whether that means anything to attorneys, is still up in the air. They do ask where I received my training, but not so much if it is recognized by the ABNS. I may be interested in replacing the CLNC or just adding to my credential the LNCC. I still do not know because I only have a year under my belt and about 400 hours in on case work, so I have a ways to go for that.

It is sad to think the ABNS feels it corners the market on the LNCs, and I certainly don't feel that way. But lets face it, being recognized by an organization like ABNS can't hurt. You don't need a certification to do what we do at all.

By the by, have you received the draft of the standards of care for the LNC yet? They are very interesting.

Thanks again!

iaclnc

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.
Siri:

There is no question about Vicky's organization at all. That is why I took my training with her institute. I understand that, but my response was based on her certification not being recognized by ABNS and that is all. I think the organization should be recognized, but, at this time, it is not. And whether that means anything to attorneys, is still up in the air. They do ask where I received my training, but not so much if it is recognized by the ABNS. I may be interested in replacing the CLNC or just adding to my credential the LNCC. I still do not know because I only have a year under my belt and about 400 hours in on case work, so I have a ways to go for that.

It is sad to think the ABNS feels it corners the market on the LNCs, and I certainly don't feel that way. But lets face it, being recognized by an organization like ABNS can't hurt. You don't need a certification to do what we do at all.

By the by, have you received the draft of the standards of care for the LNC yet? They are very interesting.

Thanks again!

iaclnc

Yes, saved that and will refer to it as I need to let others know this is not gold standard for practice as an LNC.

Most attorneys don't care if you have the certification any way. Just that you know what you are doing. That's about all that mattersto them. But, showing them you did go the distance to acquire the added education, will make you look more credible.

As you are aware. Being successful, as Vickie says, is up to us. Marketing CONSTANTLY is the key to success.

How many cases do you do each month?

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I have worked on 27 cases in the last year (since going FT), some months I work on more cases than others. I work with attorneys in 3 states so far. This summer was dry, but this last month I have worked on 5 cases alone. I also do expert searches and have done > 6 since June. But, I keep my hand in LTC and consult with facilities on their MDS compliance. So, I try to keep busy. But, I am a big marketer. I love to market. So, I am finally getting busy and I now recommend experts (nursing, dietitians, OT/PT, etc) on the cases I work on and that is going well, too.

We also started up our own LNC organization here in our state and so far, we are the only one. I am the current VP of our new organization and we will be marketing at the Trial Lawyers Convention for our state, too, so it is finally moving along.

How many cases do you work on per month and how long have you been working as an LNC? I am always interested in how others are doing and I will be glad to assist you in any way, I love to help fellow CLNCs.

iaclnc

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I have worked on 27 cases in the last year (since going FT), some months I work on more cases than others. I work with attorneys in 3 states so far. This summer was dry, but this last month I have worked on 5 cases alone. I also do expert searches and have done > 6 since June. But, I keep my hand in LTC and consult with facilities on their MDS compliance. So, I try to keep busy. But, I am a big marketer. I love to market. So, I am finally getting busy and I now recommend experts (nursing, dietitians, OT/PT, etc) on the cases I work on and that is going well, too.

We also started up our own LNC organization here in our state and so far, we are the only one. I am the current VP of our new organization and we will be marketing at the Trial Lawyers Convention for our state, too, so it is finally moving along.

How many cases do you work on per month and how long have you been working as an LNC? I am always interested in how others are doing and I will be glad to assist you in any way, I love to help fellow CLNCs.

iaclnc

You are very busy.

I just completed 5 cases for the month of October. I try not to subcontract too much. But, on occasion, I must.

I have been certified almost 4 years, but, only in the past year have I actively pursued full time.

I finally incorporated this year.

Great to know you are most successful. Vickie will be proud.

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Siri and ialnc:

I was certified via Vicky in 2001, but didn't use it, so certification lapsed...now "just an LNC". Have started my independent practice and got my first case last month.

Question about experts:

I know there are many databases out there for experts, and I belong to a few listservs, but how do you find experts in your own area? Do you pound the pavement and visit local hospitals? I belong to AALNC, but my area doesn't have a local chapter, and the closest one only has 3 other members from my area. This is very frustrating since the attorney wants experts here in the city.

Any advice?

Thanks,

Dee

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Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.
Siri and ialnc:

I was certified via Vicky in 2001, but didn't use it, so certification lapsed...now "just an LNC". Have started my independent practice and got my first case last month.

Question about experts:

I know there are many databases out there for experts, and I belong to a few listservs, but how do you find experts in your own area? Do you pound the pavement and visit local hospitals? I belong to AALNC, but my area doesn't have a local chapter, and the closest one only has 3 other members from my area. This is very frustrating since the attorney wants experts here in the city.

Any advice?

Thanks,

Dee

Hi, Dee,

That is a shame you let that lapse.

Finding those who are expert in my area? Hmmmm. Not too many physicians I would consider for that role. I have associations with a few nurses who are rather learned in their area and have prepped for this role. Then, the attorney utilized them. But, I get most of mine from the database that I have created from contact with other LNC's and from my own experiences as an NP.

If you are having to secure experts in your own area, I wish you luck. You will not be able to do this in every case. Probably not many will oblige either, unless you live in a large metropolis. JMHO.

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Hello,

My name is Nancy and myself and two other peers are now studying an LNC program. We plan to jump right in and start marketing ourselves as soon as we finish our respective courses. We have hired a graphic artist to produce our logo and information packets. What other advice do you have in getting our feet on the ground?

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