No Nursing Positions

First of all US are making nursing better through protesting unfair and unsafe working conditions. It has been my observation when nurses are passive it is there patients who suffer. Who says American Nurses can't cut it as nurses, I think the millions of nurses working 24/7 in the USA are a testament to the success of nursing in the USA.

I will repeat the best place to get nursing education is the country you wish to practice.

As far as discouraging foreign nurses, the reality is there are no recruitment of foreign nurses in my area. There are no Visas available for foreign nurses unless they marry and an American. Why would some one encourage a person to come to a country where there are no Visa or nursing positions. This has nothing to do with the country of origin it is just common sense. Why encourage foreign nurses to spend money when there are no positions for them.

Obstacles Foreign Nurses will have coming to another country is real. There is no way to sugar coat it. I think Canada is right by doing an assessment of each nurse's background. As an experience nurse if I choose a specialty outside the areas I practice ( such as maternity, peds, etc) I would expect similar treatment as IEN. My skills would have to assessed, training, testing, and mentoring this is just a fact, for me to think I could function at a high level is foolish and unsafe. IEN have similar obstacles it is not meant to deter nursing practice but inform. I get the impression that some IEN think they can just in and practice with out an orientation and evaluation period and places that do not provide this step are providing unsafe nursing practice. I would not take offense if I switched specialties IEN should not take offense when they have to be tested and oriented to their new jobs. And it is a fact when an IEN Is hired , just like if I was hired for another specialty this is a huge cost to the hospital this is a fact.

A big issue here is trying to have a professional conversation with non nurses. One issue I have personally have is IEN I have worked with thought is was below their nursing practice to clean and change a bed for a patient and would allow a patient to sit in a dirty bed until a nursing assistant was available. As a professional nurse I have never thought I was above helping a patient.
As a nursing instructor I stop this behavior from day one. Being a non nurse, the only information I would think one can post is hear say information and in my opinion this detracts from nursing professionals sharing information since we are side tracked with innuendos and second hand information.


Cleaning a patient protects the patient's dignity and is a wonderful time to complete an head to toe assessment. Of course it would be ridiculous to give an assignment of bed baths and bed making, I have never seen an instructor do that, but in the course of caring for a patient there is a need for a bed bath of course the student needs to do this.

This is a nursing board, not a US History board. I don't see the need for this post except to divide nurses by nationality.

I take offense to this as a nursing educator, you make no sense. Unfortunately to be a good nurse you have to advocate for your patient, this involves being confrontational with doctors and administration. When you don't speak up it is your patient who suffers and potentially die. I can tell you numerous times where I am to intervene when a co worker didn't want to be confrontational and if I didn't step in the patient would have died.