spider bite wound care question

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I had a new spider bite patient....when one of the nurses admitted him and went to change the dressing...the dressing was packed so tight the actual skin...the good skin was ....i guess you would call it a 'bubble" above the skin....If ya get what I mean. I meant they had packed it so tight where the wound tunnel through that the skin above actually was sticking up compared to the surrounding skin. I am not really using the right words to describe it...but I hope ya all kinda get what I am saying.... what would be the means behind this? is there one? if so...please fill me in. The wound is MRSA positive....was a brown recluse....(how ever you spell those little suckers...) and we are packing in with packing strips. but why would you pack it so tight that the above healthy skin would stick up like that? any words of wisdom would be great. the patient said the PTa did the wound care...so if any of you out there...maybe you all know something different than i do!!! we just want to know if we should also be packing it that tight!

thanks!

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Staff sometimes pack a wound too tightly forgetting that some absorbant products when pulling fluid from the wound puff up and expand causing INCREASE in pressure on tissue exactly as you've described.

Most tunnelled wounds need to be lightly packed, not stuffed full (like sauaage is in casing) to allow for wicking action of fluid and dressing expansion.

NEVER use kling with elastic as seen this cause tissue necrosis in matter of few hours too.

Don't have wet-to-dry dressings soping wet either, wring out excess, as can cause tissue maceration/ bubbling. Don't forget that staph wounds can form slight gas if active infection that causes swelling too.

Brown Recluse bites can be nasty. Their venom has the same properties as pit viper snakes (copperheads, rattlesnakes, etc.) Their venom digests the tissue so you need to watch for this. I had a patient who had to get hers surgically debrided and then we had her for a while on a Wound Vac which worked wonders. You can't have any necrotic tissue with the Vacs though. Other than a Wound Vac, something like Aquacel Sillver or a calcium alginate product with a hydrocolloid dressing changed q 5 days might be a good bet to see how it does. Was this wound worked on surgically or was the patient in the hospital? How do they think the MRSA got started? My husband was bit by one of these little guys about 5 years ago. When I called the doctor she called in some Keflex and told me to try every folk remedy I knew about since there wasn't much else to do. Some little old mountain lady told me about a plant that grows in this area (Bugleweed). I followed her instructions and made a poultice. It seemed to work as he had no tissue breakdown even though a dark black half-dollar sized area did appear after the first day before my concoction.

Good luck!

Ann

Well we think he got the mrsa at the hospital. our local hospital here it seems anyone with a wound walks out with mrsa. I myself go to a different hospital. anyways. Ya we contacted the dr, and the dr said the would just needed slight packing...and a week and a half later!!!! it is closed! he did have it I/d.....but he is back working already! thanks for your feedback!

Well we think he got the mrsa at the hospital. our local hospital here it seems anyone with a wound walks out with mrsa.

Okay that is really scary. Perhaps instead of pushing for mandating that hospitals make public their nurse/patient ratios, we should make them publish their nosocomial infection rates. The ratio could be 1:1, but it wouldn't help a bit if the care (or the housekeeping practice) was shoddy.

*shudder* I had what I thought was a bruise on my right ankle, then it turned black and necrosed. Turns out it was a brown recluse bite (YEEEEEK! I HATE SPIDERS!!!), as a nurse I tried to "fix it", changing the dressing every day and all ( I am so dang stubborn about not going to the doctor, although I would have sent anyone else there in a minute for the same problem). Within 3 months I had a quarter-size hole a half-inch deep. I needed to have a debridement surgery, which fortunately has healed now but that was one of the worst experiences in my life... good luck with the bite and treatment!

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