Military Nursing Questions Answered - page 8
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May 27, '12 by charliegbomanavyman7, as always, i appreciate your frankness. on the issue of loan repayment, this is the info i got from the navy medicine professional development center about the loan repayment gig:
health professions loan repayment program (hplrp)
the health professions loan repayment program (hplrp) provides an incentive to new accessions to enter the navy, and current active duty medical personnel to extend their active duty commitment through the payment of professional educational loans. the maximum yearly loan repayment for fy2010 is $40,000, minus ~25% federal income taxes, which are taken out prior to lender repayment. payments are sent directly to the lending institution on behalf of the hplrp participant. bumed note 1110 provides guidance for active duty professionals who want to apply for the hplrp. assistant secretary of defense for health affairs (asd(ha))policy 08-006 is the authorizing instruction for the hplrp program.
then there is a link that talks about the required service obligation for participation in the program. the following was also copied from the site:
c. nurse corps(nc). the minimum duty obligation (mdo) for ncdirect accession officers is 3 years. the service obligation for accepting an accession bonus is 3 years for$20k and 4 years for $30k. for ncofficers accepting an accession bonus, the service obligation for the accessionbonus is served concurrently with the mdo. if an hplrp is added to theincentive package, the obligation for the hplrp is added to the obligation forthe accession bonus. if no accessionbonus is awarded, the hprlp obligation is served concurrently with the mdo.examples follow for inputting information into the accession hplrp contract,paragraph 17:
1. example for nc with $20k accession bonus and 1 year hplrp:
iunderstand that in return for ___1_____ year(s) of loan repayment, ishall serve ___2_____ years on active duty. if i have taken asigning bonus, my hplrp active duty obligation (ado) will be added to mysigning bonus obligation, and will be served after the ado for the signingbonus. unless previously completed, i shall also serve any remaining previousirr obligation, unless it is mutually agreed that my irr obligation shall beserved on active duty. i understand that my total ado as of the date i signthis contract, including the adhplrp ado shall be _____5______ (years).
i know it's a lengthy piece but this is what i found while researching the navy. as far as i can tell, this is the most recent info on the navy.mil site on the available accession/retention incentives.
May 28, '12 by navyman7charlie, thanks for the update. I do remember that now that you mention it. I have never seen anyone take that route. Maybe its the payback that's too long for people to commit to all that time. Thanks for the info.
May 29, '12 by Amistad, BSN, RNThanks for the message! It won't let me reply to private messages, but I did receive it and it was very helpful! I will look into the BAH and continue doing my research into navy nursing... I will comment again here if I have more questions!
May 29, '12 by sailornurse, ADN, BSN, MSN, LPN, APRN, NPHey, don't forget Mercy's sister ship, the Comfort! I was deployed on it during Persian Gulf War.
PS- your information is extremely well researched and detailed. Thank you.Last edit by sailornurse on May 30, '12
Jun 1, '12 by Jmag1213Hello, I am currently working on pre-nursing, going for my bachelors. I'm interested in specializing in pediatrics oncology. I've recently been looking into becoming a navy nurse. I've read many threads on NCP and ODS. I know this is years away but I'm trying to get information. I know that there are 3 big hospitals where one can get stationed. My question is how do you go about getting into peds after arriving to your first duty station? Is this even possible?question is how could I pursue peds in the navy?
Jun 1, '12 by utamaverickHello navyman7,
It's been a while, but I wanted to thank you for your advice. I'm currently studying for the NCLEX. I did negotiate my orders with the detailer and I will be stationed in San Diego. I'm unsure of what unit at this point.
I'm a single 22 yo female and a new GN. After attending ODS, were GN's trained in their units similar to a nursing internship in the civilian side?
Also for housing, the BAH for SD is around $1700. Would you recommend living on base or using the BAH to find a somewhat affordable off-base apartment?
Thank you for all of your advice and the time you spend providing mentoring to future Navy nurses.
Jun 1, '12 by utamaverickHello Jmag1213,
As an NCP candidate, I consulted with CDR Smith, the registrar for the HPSP program in Bethesda. I told her my interest and strengths that I have working in pediatrics and she told me that the units are difficult to get into because they are fully staffed, and many of the RN's on the pedi units are holding off retirement because of the economy. Good news is, you have time to see how the hiring cycle will be upon your graduation.
I was told by my mentor, who started out in an L&D unit (which they called "purgatory") that if there is unit that you want (they wanted ICU), be in communication with your DIVO.
Best of luck.
Jun 1, '12 by navyman7JMAG: it is difficult getting in exactly where you want sometimes. However people get into some great places from time to time. You will be assigned to a new nurse internship program when you get to SD. You need to push your wants with the new nurse intern director. Don't just say that you want to go there because it sound interesting, state your goals. State that you are interested in pursuing an advanced practice degree in that area. These kinds of arguments make you sound more committed than someone who doesn't want to go to a med/surg floor. But make sure that you research the kind of schooling and training that you need first. You don't want to be caught not knowing what your talking about. Hope this helps.
Jul 13, '12 by irfarmer, BSN, RNHi navyman7,
thank-you for the useful information. I have a story of my own and would appreciate your insight on my situation. I am 2 weeks away from completing my BSN, and my application is in. I had previously served 5 years enlisted, and have been a practicing RN for 6 1/2 years. I've worked in step-down ICU for 2 years, med/surg for a year, home health for 2 years and currently (for the past 1 1/2 years) been working on an IV team and putting in PICC lines. I'm curious if there are RNs in the Navy that work on IV on PICC teams, and were my experience will come into play. I am interested in going into emergency medicine at some point, and furthering my education as either a NP or an MD in emergency medicine. What are your thoughts on all this? I plan on finishing out my career in the Navy, and am planning or hoping, to go to Portsmouth. Also, what do you think the chances are of coming in as an O2? I previously had 4 years of sea time, do you know how that will play into my situation? I'm sure you don't have all the answers but would appreciate what you can answer.
Jul 15, '12 by jeckrn, BSNUnless things have changed in the last 3 years the Navy will only count the time you work after you have graduated with your BSN for constructive credit.
Jul 16, '12 by navyman7IRFARMER: Lets see if we can answer all of those questions. You being prior enlisted will help your case, unless you were a slacker while you were in before. Your other experience while it looks great on a resume won't help you too much since you didn't have your BSN. It will help you be much more marketable though. Once you get in, you will most likely be able to go where ever there is a slot available due to your past experiences. I don't think that you will get that O-2 though. But O-1E pay is nice too. Also your years of sea pay won't matter unless you deploy on a ship, then it will earn you some extra cash.
As for your question on IV teams, I am not sure what Bethesda or Portsmouth does but at San Diego they do not have IV teams. They do have an infusion center where they place PICC's, unfortunately I am not sure who staffs it. There are many nurses who are PICC certified who do it as a collateral duty. Hope this helps some.
Jul 17, '12 by irfarmer, BSN, RNThanks for the info folks, I'm not sure about counting the time either. That one is yet to be seen... I've been a licensed RN since 2006 and I was told today the experience time would count but I know how things work in the Navy. As far as my work habits... my evals were all good before, I'm a very work oriented person and have always have good evaluations in both the military and civilian workplaces. Thanks again for the answers, getting answers from the horses mouth is alot better than from the rumor mill.
Jul 21, '12 by navyRN1790Good afternoon,
I recently just graduated from nursing school and I was commissioned about 1 month ago. I leave for Officer Development School in August and my first duty station is Naval Medical Center Portsmouth. I am very excited that I am doing military nursing because of the opprotunities to work in different areas around the world. I am also excited to see how the military health care system differs from civilian. I have worked as a tech on a medical telemetry floor for a year and a half. I know telemetry is a great starting point, but I am quite sure I want to move to an ICU, ER/Trauma or maybe OR/PACU someday. I honestly didn't join the military to work on a Med/Surg floor handing out colace, coumadin and lopressor all day. That sounds boring to me. I want a challenge. I owe the military 5 years and plan to make the best of it and learn as much as I can. Hopefully I'll end up loving it and making it a career.
I have a few questions and hopefully you will be able to answer them.
1. Have you worked in Portsmouth or know anyone who has worked there? Did they enjoy it?
2. How long will it take for me to get into an ICU or ED? Is it true that the Navy is in dire need of critical care nurses?
3. How hard is it to be a flight nurse in the navy?
4. How hard is it to get in the DUINS program? What can I do to make me competitive?
5. By the end of my 5 years will I at least make LT?
6. Is asking for leave based on seniority?
Thank you. I probably have more questions to come haha, but this is all for now.