Why are you REALLY going into nursing? Honest answers please. - page 17

Ok, I'm a bit frustrated with all of these posts telling us that we shouldn't go into nursing because we need a job and steady income. Sure, I do like to help people, but I need a steady job even... Read More

  1. by   MassLPN2005
    I am a grown person and I have to support myself.

    Could I be a nurse for free? No.

    Would I live in poverty to be a nurse? No.

    Call me a realist, or just call me a single woman.

    That said, I have always wanted to be a nurse. I was a candy striper in HS, etc. I care. I want to help. I would do it even if I won the lottery...maybe part time doing exactly what I wanted... but nursing none the less. I love helping people. Nursing is my life dream and luckily it will allow me a modest yet comfortable independent lifestyle.
  2. by   1styear
    Nursing is physically and emotionally draining. You can have seven patients, 40 meds to give by 0900, doctors issuing new orders, family members calling and no CNA to help. On top of this, one of your patients rings the call light every 10 minutes because he is scared, lonely, confused, etc. Another patient's husband is irate because the doctor hasn't been in yet and he comes to the nursing station every 15 minutes demanding to know when the doctor will be coming.

    Everyone, regardless of their motivation to become a nurse, would be stressed, frustrated and aggravated.




    I think you are only talking about floor nursing when you say "nursing" in the above post. Not everyone plans on pursuing whatever job the above details includes. There's more to nursing than med surg floors, back pains and frustration. Maybe someone wants a solid career in nursing but plans on working in a doctor's office or do legal nursing or a pharm rep?? Surely their care would be no less because they strive to enhance their lifestyle with a good solid paycheck. The hospital is not a convent and nurses are not called by god, it's a CAREER choice for most people.
  3. by   Sheri257
    Quote from 1styear
    I think you are only talking about floor nursing when you say "nursing" in the above post. Not everyone plans on pursuing whatever job the above details includes. There's more to nursing than med surg floors, back pains and frustration. Maybe someone wants a solid career in nursing but plans on working in a doctor's office or do legal nursing or a pharm rep?? Surely their care would be no less because they strive to enhance their lifestyle with a good solid paycheck. The hospital is not a convent and nurses are not called by god, it's a CAREER choice for most people.
    True. 60 percent of nursing jobs are in hospitals, so the remaining 40 percent leaves a lot of room for other choices.

  4. by   HisTreasure
    Quote from lizz
    And what makes you think I don't have enough "heart into it"? You have no right to judge me, especially when you don't know me.

    This is what really annoys me. Just because I'm honest about needing a steady job, doesn't mean I don't care about people.

    I don't go on and on about caring because, quite frankly, I sometimes think it's disingenuous. There is no way I would go through the hell that is school if there wasn't a steady job at the end of the road. I need to pay bills, just like anybody else.

    But, at the same time, that doesn't mean I don't care about people. If anything, I'll be able to care for others more because I won't have to worry about taking care of myself.

    :angryfire

    I feel you are right. We all come from different walks of life, and some of the things we go through help us to be more compassionate and understanding. We have a greater appreciation for life and for our fellow man. In addition to this new-found wisdom and appreciation comes responsibility, a lot of which is financial. Children, cars, mortgages, student loans, medical bills, grocery bills, utility bills, bills, bills, bills. Just because we need to pay these bills, and KNOW that we will be able to pay the bills again the following month, does not mean we will be bad nurses. In fact, I think if a person has so much financial responsibility, it would be foolish to go into a profession "Just for the love of it" if it were not a secure or adequate paying profession. JMHO.
    Last edit by HisTreasure on Jul 2, '04
  5. by   finally
    okay...let's just clear this up...I think that being a nurse and having your number one reason be for job stability and all that is perfectly realistic...I just was getting the impression from some of your earlier posts that that was the ONLY reason your going into it, which I don't think is ethical....sorry if you felt that I was judging you...I didn't mean to push any buttons...I was just trying to make the point that TRULY caring about people is a HUGE aspect of nursing care, not only to do the job right, but to earn the PRIVELEGE of being a nurse....thats all...I truly am sorry if I offended you, hope that clears up what I was trying to say
    Quote from lizz
    And what makes you think I don't have enough "heart into it"? You have no right to judge me, especially when you don't know me.

    This is what really annoys me. Just because I'm honest about needing a steady job, doesn't mean I don't care about people.

    I don't go on and on about caring because, quite frankly, I sometimes think it's disingenuous. There is no way I would go through the hell that is school if there wasn't a steady job at the end of the road. I need to pay bills, just like anybody else.

    But, at the same time, that doesn't mean I don't care about people. If anything, I'll be able to care for others more because I won't have to worry about taking care of myself.

    :angryfire
  6. by   Sheri257
    Quote from finally
    okay...let's just clear this up...I think that being a nurse and having your number one reason be for job stability and all that is perfectly realistic...I just was getting the impression from some of your earlier posts that that was the ONLY reason your going into it, which I don't think is ethical....sorry if you felt that I was judging you...I didn't mean to push any buttons...I was just trying to make the point that TRULY caring about people is a HUGE aspect of nursing care, not only to do the job right, but to earn the PRIVELEGE of being a nurse....thats all...I truly am sorry if I offended you, hope that clears up what I was trying to say
    I appreciate your apology, and thank you. I'd just like to mention something else that, perhaps, you haven't considered.

    Nurses love to say that it should be about caring, not money. And, in an ideal world, I would agree. But that's not how it really works.

    Higher paying nursing positions are almost always filled more than lower paying positions, consistently, across the board. This has been widely reported in news articles where recruiters, hospital administrators, etc. have talked about the shortage. As one agency owner put it, "At a certain price point, there are nurses."

    In my area, half the nurses commute 30 miles or more, not because they aren't needed here. They are, desperately. But, rather than helping out their local community, they fight the traffic and work elsewhere, mostly because they can make $5 or more an hour elsewhere. Despite the tremendous inconvenience of traffic and the extra costs of commuting (gas, etc.), not to mention time, they do it for the money.

    If it's supposed to be about caring too, and not just the money, then there seems to be a lot of "unethical" nurses out there, if that's the standard. Afterall, actions do speak louder than words.

    The fact is: what people say, and what people actually do are two different things. In reality, money comes first for a lot of nurses.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jun 12, '04
  7. by   finally
    unfortunately, I do agree...Call me unrealistic...but I just hope that people keep joining nursing for the fact that they want to "make a difference" and of course the ones that join for other reasons are also greatly needed...but just as long as everyone treats each patient as an individual and not as a 'case'...thats all...Good luck in all you do...
    Quote from lizz
    I appreciate your apology, and thank you. I'd just like to mention something else that, perhaps, you haven't considered.

    Nurses love to say that it should be about caring, not money. And, in an ideal world, I would agree. But that's not how it really works.

    Higher paying nursing positions are almost always filled more than lower paying positions, consistently, across the board. This has been widely reported in news articles where recruiters, hospital administrators, etc. have talked about the shortage. As one agency owner put it, "At a certain price point, there are nurses."

    In my area, half the nurses commute 30 miles or more, not because they aren't needed here. They are, desperately. But, rather than helping out their local community, they fight the traffic and work elsewhere, mostly because they can make $5 or more an hour elsewhere. Despite the tremendous inconvenience of traffic and the extra costs of commuting (gas, etc.), not to mention time, they do it for the money.

    If it's supposed to be about caring too, and not just the money, then there seems to be a lot of "unethical" nurses out there, if that's the standard. Afterall, actions do speak louder than words.

    The fact is: what people say, and what people actually do are two different things. In reality, money comes first for a lot of nurses.

  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from lizz
    The fact is: what people say, and what people actually do are two different things. In reality, money comes first for a lot of nurses.


    Absolutely money is important. You see it all the time. People will job hop to get that sign-on bonus. People will go prn to make that extra $10.00/hr. People here in St. Pete will drive across the bay to Tampa to get $3.00/hr more, nurses work for an Agency to make big bucks, nurses travel to get free travel, big bucks and housing paid for.

    The jobs nurses take has a lot to do with the money.

    To me it's two separate issues. I'm a nurse because I care about getting and helping sick people and I'm a compassionate understanding person. The reason I stay a nurse and stay at this particular job has a lot to do with the money. If someone offered me $5.00 an hour more, I would probably jump at it considering benefits, etc. That doesn't make me less of a compassionate nurse.

    I agree with finally though. In the long run if a person is looking to be a nurse only to make a buck and couldn't care less about people or helping them, or was uncompassionate, they make lousy nurses and I don't want to work with them and don't want them as my nurse.

    Lizz, there is nothing wrong with picking a career that is going to pay the bills. Most people do that. Most college kids are thinking of money and job availability when they are deciding what to major in. No need to apologize for that at all.

    What I don't like seeing is burnout over the years that people loose that compassionate edge and stay in it only for the money. Nursing has beat it out of them and they have nothing left. They are going through the motions. Sometimes I feel like that myself.
  9. by   Altra
    See "New CVICU RN" thread ... maybe this is what some have been trying to say. I'm not here to judge anyone's motivations, but I do think that nursing will suck more out of you than you may be willing to give if helping people isn't fairly high on your priority list. If I didn't have a strong sense of wanting a profession that contributes to the better good, times like the one described in this thread would be way, way too high a price for me to pay just for a paycheck.

    Good luck to all.

    http://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69528
    Last edit by Altra on Jun 12, '04
  10. by   MiamiFL04
    I'm going into nursing because I have a good heart and I want to help people. Also, besides having a good heart and wanting to help people I'm a single mother and I would like to have a high demand career where I can find a job anywhere and make decent money.
  11. by   Sheri257
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    To me it's two separate issues. I'm a nurse because I care about getting and helping sick people and I'm a compassionate understanding person. The reason I stay a nurse and stay at this particular job has a lot to do with the money. If someone offered me $5.00 an hour more, I would probably jump at it considering benefits, etc. That doesn't make me less of a compassionate nurse.
    I agree. That was the point I was trying to make. Nurses like money too. And there's nothing wrong with that. But why is it wrong if you happen to be a student? Obviously I'm not talking about you Tweety. But I've been reading this board for months, and I see post after post telling students, you shouldn't go into nursing if you need the money.

    Yet, I don't see nurses criticizing other nurses for taking jobs that pay better. And, a lot of nurses complain that they don't make enough money. Yet, nobody says those nurses are doing a lousy job or, are less compassionate, because they want more money.

    Why do students get all of the grief for wanting the same thing that nurses do?

    It IS a separate issue. But not if you're a student on this board. It's a double standard and hypocritical.

    That's what bothers me.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jun 13, '04
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from lizz
    Why do students get all of the grief for wanting the same thing that nurses do?

    Students and nurses sometimes have an interesting dynamic going on.

    Lizz we love to give students grief because there students can be so assured and arrogant sometimes about what nursing is about. Those of us in the trenches can be arrogant too that we know better and pat you on the head and say "just wait until your a real nurse deary.....then you'll understand".
  13. by   Sheri257
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    Students and nurses sometimes have an interesting dynamic going on.

    Lizz we love to give students grief because there students can be so assured and arrogant sometimes about what nursing is about. Those of us in the trenches can be arrogant too that we know better and pat you on the head and say "just wait until your a real nurse deary.....then you'll understand".
    Well, I do agree with that. I don't pretend to understand what nursing is all about, by any means. Any student who does is out of their mind, and they probably do deserve that kind of grief. :chuckle

    But when it comes to the money issue, hypocrisy runs rampant around here.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jun 13, '04

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