Group Project Vent Thread! - page 3
It's Friday night and I am so pi**ed off I can't even enjoy the night. I need to vent so that I can let this go and relax for the rest of the weekend. Well, enjoy it as much as I can considering all the work I have to get... Read More
- 1Jul 9, '07 by Daytonitei'm going to respond to this thread even though it is older because this subject of group projects comes up from time to time. my comments are not being aimed at anyone who has responded to this thread. a lot of it comes from my years of experience and frustration at what i hear students on this and other threads saying about group projects.
in the work place (hospitals, nursing homes, clinics) everyone works as a group, a team. these projects that you are asked to do in school are a precursor to work situations. they involve getting a task done and sometimes involving having to deal with difficult personalities and the behavior of the various people in the group. nursing is a people industry. if you are going into nursing thinking that you were going to hide behind a desk in a cubicle you are going into the wrong profession. you are, on a daily basis, having to interact and deal with people's behavior whether they are patients or coworkers. you have to learn to deal with it. there are skills you can learn to help you with this. if your instructors happened to neglect telling you about them i will tell you what you need to be studying and have some weblinks to get you started. it is a long pursuit to become skilled in learning to interact successfully with people. but good leaders will put in the time to learn and master them.
here are links on how to survive and deal with student group projects that were put together by college instructors who did take the time to give their students instructions on how to do this. if your instructors haven't given you this help, part of the blame for problems you have belong to your instructors. you need to recognize that. you also need to recognize that there are techniques to help you out when you run into one of these crises. similar crises will crop up in work situations as well. as future rns and lpn charge nurses, you will be expected to know how to deal with them. that is just one of the things you are being exposed to and learning from group projects. read these various websites and tutorials. when you run into a snag it will give you ammunition to ask intelligent help from your instructors--that is how to better handle snags in your projects--not by just ranting and complaining. most bossess don't want to hear you rant and complaint--they expect results.
- http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~sludi/se...fcontents.html - student survival guide to managing group projects. click on the links to get into the text.
- http://lowery.tamu.edu/teaming/morgan1/tsld001.htm - use of teams in classes. a slide show presentation on teamwork, how to create teams and how to work on team projects.
- http://www.usq.edu.au/course/materia...1/teamwork.htm - teamwork. site specifically for students to help you in working together in a team.
- http://www.academictutorials.com/teamwork/ - team tutorial
- 0Jul 10, '07 by DaytoniteQuote from MMW37Nursing is a profession where you MUST work with people of all types, both patients and coworkers.We're almost done with semester 1 and haven't had to do any yet...after reading all the horror stories on here, I'm really hoping the trend continues. I work and study best alone, and I'm an A student and don't want anyone else to bring me down.
Let me re-write my post. If you were a patient that needed a lot of different things to be done for you, would you want a nurse who only wanted to work alone doing complicated things with you that you would feel much easier about if it was done with someone helping him or her? Would you want a nurse caring for you that was only interested in doing what had to be done for you and then leaving ASAP? Is that your image of a nurse? If you were ill and in need of comfort and care, is that the kind of person you would want taking care of you? How would you move a 400 pound patient by yourself? How would you resuscitate a patient on your own? What if the only person who could help you is someone you didn't like? Then, what are you going to do?Last edit by Daytonite on Jul 10, '07
- 0Jul 11, '07 by rnmomtobe2010SNB, you used the exact word I was thinking of!!!"HATE"!! That is a strong word I know but sometimes you can't help feeling that way. I cannot do group projects. That burns me up. Falon,just take deep breaths and keep pushing. My mother had a group proj. not too long ago and let's just say she had a few choice words for the chick. My mother was going to skip class that day but I told her she better not. After her choice words, she talked with her instructor and her instr. told my mom to present what she had and not to worry. Needless to say, my mother got a B and the chick failed. She thought she was going to get part of that grade. Boy was she wrong. Sometimes you have to look over people. Temptations come in all forms and different ways. Hopefully next semester will be better and good luck!!!
- 0Jul 11, '07 by MB37It's not that I hate working with others in general - I've just read so many stories on here about people not putting forth any effort AT ALL, and the instructors still assigning everyone the same grade. Most of the people I know in my class are at the least hard workers, so maybe it won't be so bad if we start having to do them. I work with others at my job, and we certainly all depend on each other. While I love allnurses, sometimes the posts get me a little more scared about certain aspects of NS than I need to be - so far I enjoy going to class, like my classmates and instructors fine, and am doing well. A lot more people post I guess when they're unhappy than when they're not.
- 0Jul 11, '07 by Lovely_RNI never updated this thread!
It turns out that the two worst offenders flunked out of the program because of the grade they received for this class. The third managed to pull herself together, squeaked by, and now she is a much better student. She actually pulls her weight in the group that she is in now....I guess she saw what happened to the other two and decided to get with the program.
In the end getting the memebers of our group to band together and apply pressure to the lazier ones helped. It didn't make getting the work done any easier but at least I didn't feel like I was climbing the mountain alone.
I think that the two that were expelled simply did not believe that they would really be dropped for not workig hard. Both of them had went to college before and thought that NS was like a regular college experience where you can BS your way through...do the minimum, wait until the last minute and still get a decent grade. The overwhelming majority of the class takes school a LOT more seriously now that they understand that they could fail out for something as "minor" as missing the cutoff grade by a point.Last edit by Lovely_RN on Jul 11, '07
- 0Jul 12, '07 by miss arronthanks for the links daytonite... it's been awhile since i've really had to work as a group and it won't hurt to brush up a bit on my skills.
i was the self-nominated group leader during my senior project for my first degree.... i am a control freak, so i was happy to step up. slackers are hard to deal with, even getting to do the smallest of tasks is like pulling teeth.