What if all docs had to nurses first????? - page 7

Really! I mean think about it..... what problems would this alleviate?? A friend and I were talking about this today. After hearing and reading so much about difficult doctors, wouldn't it be... Read More

  1. by   nursbee04
    Quote from MorganO
    I'm sorry you misunderstood. I was trying to point out to the writer that he assumed RN's have an associate degree and was venting my frustration with his ability to address an RN's bad behavior, but that same nurse has no recourse when she is treated poorly.
    I don't think that professionals need to shadow one another. Ultimately there should be mutual respect. The problem seems to be that physicians in our facility believe that they can cross the line with their frustration and there is no recourse from administration.
    True, there should be a zero tolerance type of policy in place for ALL employees, but physicians will always be treated differently, because GOD FORBID they should take their services to another facility. Any other employee that goes over the line is disciplined and warned, and also "required" to apologize to the person they crossed the line with. Docs have to do something pretty bad before they are disciplined (screaming at a nurse) and even then they are not made to apologize.

    On the flip side, a nurse at a facility I used to work at once questioned the route of a medication a physician wanted given. He said IM, but with the dose it would have caused the patient to have something like six IM shots at one time (this pt was a bilat AKA. She had an IV site!!!!!!!!!!!). So when she suggested IV instead of IM, he cut her off without giving her a chance to explain and refused to even listen to her rationale. So she took it to the supervisor, who took care of the matter and got it changed to IV.
    Well guess who got disciplined the next day? The nurse. The physician felt she "stepped over the line" and purposely tried to question his judgement with the intent of making him look bad. The nurse was told to apologize and she did. (I don't think I could have.)
  2. by   FranEMTnurse
    Quote from nursbee04
    True, there should be a zero tolerance type of policy in place for ALL employees, but physicians will always be treated differently, because GOD FORBID they should take their services to another facility. Any other employee that goes over the line is disciplined and warned, and also "required" to apologize to the person they crossed the line with. Docs have to do something pretty bad before they are disciplined (screaming at a nurse) and even then they are not made to apologize.

    On the flip side, a nurse at a facility I used to work at once questioned the route of a medication a physician wanted given. He said IM, but with the dose it would have caused the patient to have something like six IM shots at one time (this pt was a bilat AKA. She had an IV site!!!!!!!!!!!). So when she suggested IV instead of IM, he cut her off without giving her a chance to explain and refused to even listen to her rationale. So she took it to the supervisor, who took care of the matter and got it changed to IV.
    Well guess who got disciplined the next day? The nurse. The physician felt she "stepped over the line" and purposely tried to question his judgement with the intent of making him look bad. The nurse was told to apologize and she did. (I don't think I could have.)
    :angryfire There are just too many of them big emptyheaded creatures around. I am one of the unfortunate ones who has one. Bleah!! And then they wonder why they aren't respected. Yeah, right. I respect my ferret more than I do some of them creatures. It seems when we nurses do advocate for our patients we get in trouble, and yet we are taught to be advocates for our patients in nursing school. Then those ahem puffed up marshmallow headed professionals, whose licenses we are protecting, and who we are also advocating for due to the nurse practice act, stomp all over us.:angryfire Then they wonder why there's such a shortage of nurses. Okay I've given my , so I'll step off my soapbox.

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