Weather Policy

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Does your hospital have a weather policy? If so, is it lenient? Do you ever feel like you have really sacrificed your safety to make it into work out of guilt?

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Listen just because it violates the TOS does not mean it doesn't happen. There are plenty of ways to make it a personal attack against someone without being out out about it. I see so many posts that essentially call people out, picking unnecessarily at their opinion, and blasting them for feeling how they feel. It's not even funny. And those posters are so transparent, it's sick.[/quote']

And sadly some people think that any time you have a difference of opinion it's a personal attack. I've started posts on here and had some brutal honesty sent my way. It was painful to hear but I'm a better person for. Everyone would prefer to have people agree with their point of view, but that's not how the real world works. And sometimes it's hard to accept. But calling bullying on a difference of opinion isn't accurate at all.

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Listen, just because it violates the TOS does not mean it doesn't happen. There are plenty of ways to make it a personal attack against someone without being out out about it. I see so many posts that essentially call people out, picking unnecessarily at their opinion, and blasting them for feeling how they feel. It's not even funny. And those posters are so transparent, it's sick.

Ok, and you can't scroll past and take what's needed?

Again, you don't have to answer that.

Think about that moving forward, especially when you make a choice to post or even start a thread.

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And sadly some people think that any time you have a difference of opinion it's a personal attack. I've started posts on here and had some brutal honesty sent my way. It was painful to hear but I'm a better person for. Everyone would prefer to have people agree with their point of view but that's not how the real world works. And sometimes it's hard to accept. But calling bullying on a difference of opinion isn't accurate at all. Sent from my iPhone using allnurses.com[/quote']

I didn't use the word bullying. If you're going to use my words against me, please try to be a little more accurate.

I'm not going to restate AGAIN why I started this thread, but the fact of the matter is that I could care less if anyone agrees with how I feel or don't feel regarding commuting in inclement weather. I stand by my statements and you're all free to disagree as you wish. But again: there is a respectful way to disagree and a disrespectful way, and I seem to see more disrespect on this site during discussions than respect. For a group of professionals, this is unacceptable.

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Ok and you can't scroll past and take what's needed? Again, you don't have to answer that. Think about that moving forward, especially when you make a choice to post or even start a thread.[/quote']

Of course I can. And I often do. If that weren't the case, don't you think I would have addressed all responses by now? Sheesh.

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How is that drama? If your ratios are 5:1 and two nurses call out and you're now 6-7:1 that is dangerous. Something can easily get missed causing a pt to die. Of if you're in the ICU and you're now 3:1 that's a HUGE change in quality of care given to a critical pt. especially if one gets super sick and you're now 1:1.

If you feel you are too far away to drive to work safely in a storm either go in early or find a new job closer to home. We all count on our coworkers to show up, and screwing us over isn't cool.

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So a 6:1 ratio is dangerous and horrible if it's the nurses fault...but a 12:1 ratio (common in many hospitals) is fine and dandy if management deems it so to save money? Where's the outrage over that?

Get a grip. Nurses need to collectively overcome this doormat mentality. It's like a poster mentioned above me, when they asked about discipline for the resident who didn't come in due to whether, his colleagues were confused. Only nurses are treated like little children who need "discliplined" for making responsible choices in inclement weather, and it's because of people like the posters on this thread who actually encourage staying in a hotel or risking your life on bad roads to show up to work for a hospital that couldn't care less whether you live or die.

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So a 6:1 ratio is dangerous and horrible if it's the nurses fault...but a 12:1 ratio (common in many hospitals) is fine and dandy if management deems it so to save money? Where's the outrage over that? Get a grip. Nurses need to collectively overcome this doormat mentality. It's like a poster mentioned above me when they asked about discipline for the resident who didn't come in due to whether, his colleagues were confused. Only nurses are treated like little children who need "discliplined" for making responsible choices in inclement weather, and it's because of people like the posters on this thread who actually encourage staying in a hotel or risking your life on bad roads to show up to work for a hospital that couldn't care less whether you live or die.[/quote']

This thread has definitely turned into an "I did this, blah blah blah .... and I'm fine!" type of thread. Just a bunch of posts of people one upping anyone who wouldn't drive in what they deem dangerous weather. Brava, you drove in a whiteout/tornado/hurricane, etc. It is sooo not the point.

I agree with you that everyone in the hospital should be held to the same standard in regards to calling out for weather or any other condition that would deem it unsafe to drive. Physicians shouldn't get special treatment for being physicians.

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I didn't use the word bullying. If you're going to use my words against me please try to be a little more accurate. I'm not going to restate AGAIN why I started this thread, but the fact of the matter is that I could care less if anyone agrees with how I feel or don't feel regarding commuting in inclement weather. I stand by my statements and you're all free to disagree as you wish. But again: there is a respectful way to disagree and a disrespectful way, and I seem to see more disrespect on this site during discussions than respect. For a group of professionals, this is unacceptable.[/quote']

Okay you said "personal attack" not bullying, my bad. I haven't seen anything disrespectful in this thread. Yes people have disagreed with your stance, but that's what happens in threads. If you feel something is so disrespectful you need to report it, or don't read it. I have seen threads where things get out of hand, and the mods come through and clean house or shut the thread down. That's not what's going on here.

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Okay you said "personal attack" not bullying my bad. I haven't seen anything disrespectful in this thread. Yes people have disagreed with your stance, but that's what happens in threads. If you feel something is so disrespectful you need to report it, or don't read it. I have seen threads where things get out of hand, and the mods come through and clean house or shut the thread down. That's not what's going on here. Sent from my iPhone using allnurses.com[/quote']

I also didn't use this thread as a specific example. But keep trying to make what I said something it isn't.

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So a 6:1 ratio is dangerous and horrible if it's the nurses fault...but a 12:1 ratio (common in many hospitals) is fine and dandy if management deems it so to save money? Where's the outrage over that? Get a grip. Nurses need to collectively overcome this doormat mentality. It's like a poster mentioned above me when they asked about discipline for the resident who didn't come in due to whether, his colleagues were confused. Only nurses are treated like little children who need "discliplined" for making responsible choices in inclement weather, and it's because of people like the posters on this thread who actually encourage staying in a hotel or risking your life on bad roads to show up to work for a hospital that couldn't care less whether you live or die.[/quote']

I've never heard of any med/surg floor having a 12:1 ratio and if they do then there's more issues there then I can tackle on here. What I'm saying is you suddenly have 1.5 times as many pts because of your coworkers calling out due to weather, then it puts the pts in danger. I'm sorry if you can't see that.

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Of course I can. And I often do. If that weren't the case, don't you think I would have addressed all responses by now? Sheesh.

But that's my point; you can't have it both ways because you don't "like" a reponse, especially if you make a post; you are crying foul because of how someone posts; you decided to state that how someone who decides to post their point if view as "unacceptable", instead of agreeing to disagree you decide to write up what "some people's" responses, some who do think before they are posting and are posting their experiences, as "unacceptable"

You don't have to respond, you have a choice, just as much as you choose not to travel in bad weather.

And yes, I brought it back to the point of the thread. :cheeky:

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I also didn't use this thread as a specific example. But keep trying to make what I said something it isn't.

You didn't use any specifics examples but considering you've been upset at the direction of this thread from the beginning, it wasn't a stretch to assume you were talking about this one. But you do seem to have a tendency to have threads where it's the majority vs you so I'm sure there are lots of threads that you feel are disrespectful based on the simple fact that they disagree with you.

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You didn't use any specifics examples but considering you've been upset at the direction of this thread from the beginning it wasn't a stretch to assume you were talking about this one. But you do seem to have a tendency to have threads where it's the majority vs you so I'm sure there are lots of threads that you feel are disrespectful based on the simple fact that they disagree with you. Sent from my iPhone using allnurses.com[/quote']

It isn't about me vs anyone else. I'm not bothered by anyone disagreeing with me, in case you haven't noticed. I simply state why I feel how I feel and counter what it said. I'm not off on a tirade or insulting anyone else. Nor am I storming off like a child. Soooo ...

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