Sexism in Nursing (a male point of view)

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As a male in nursing, I feel that I am sometimes treated differently because of my gender. I believe that I am expected to carry a heavier patient load with less assistance from my female coworkers. I also believe that men are more often assigned to care for obese patients; I am also sometimes pulled to the other end of the unit to assist in moving heavy patients because I am stronger.

For instance, I work in an ICU and our nurse to patient ratio is either 1:1 or 1:2; the other day 4 out of the 5 doubles (1:2) were assigned to men. On the same day, a female nurse said "We can get so and so to help, he's a big strong guy." I responded that I felt that was sexism and the nurse said "Are you saying that men aren't physically stronger than women." I replied that I agreed that, in general, men are stronger than women; however, they are not immune to back injuries or repeatative stress injuries. We are friends and this was a friendly and playful discussion.

I think part of what motivated me to post this topic is the Oregon poster to recruit men into nursing because more men in nursing would change the current culture. Nursing is female dominated; therfore, so is the culture. Most men (especially the real men to whom this poster is directed) are not used to being the "underdog" or to working in an environment where their way of dealing with stress may be viewed as inappropriate. The adjustment can be difficult. I have talked to other men I work with and most have agreed (quietly), but it isn't something that is talked about. I thought that this would be a great forum in which to discuss this topic.

My aim is not to attack female nurses or to be confrontational, it is to discuss this topic openly as I feel it to be important.

Kevin I like your last statement here, although I don't really like your hypothesis about nursingschool and instructors, but hey, I am pretty biased on that theme of course.

As an educator/ instructor I have to be honest and say, yes, as with all minorities in a society (in this case the nursing-society, minorities being the male nurse) men are still pretty special in nursing.

It is getting better (in March 25 new students will begin, 8 men among them), but you can't wave history and fixed ideas away in just a couple of years.

But we still have to fight with old sisters on the (especially) "womenwards" (yes, they still exist too!) to take our male-students. But most of these women will leave nursing in 1 to 2 years.

Take care, Renee

I think Kevin has a good point here. ERN and DayRay as well make some fine points. This is not that pressing of an issue to get all lathered up about. To me it centrifuges down to one very old concept....BE Nice! I have had some extraordinary female nurses teach me procedures and intercede with my patients to help me when they knew I was bombed by patient load. Most of them go out of their way to help, and I do the same for them. I have always felt warmly welcomed whereever I worked, and yes, I get called often to move folks, or hang blood, give prn meds, or order up from pharmacy, and my forte...talking to families. Granted, I do not work on an L&D unit...and I thank guys like ERN and DayRay for going where they may not necessarily be welcome. If and when issues like theirs arise, solace may be taken that over time and repetition incidents such as those may diminish. I do think it important to say that whatever occupation one is in the occasional bloody nose will be a hazard, as in society as a whole, and is more related to personality confrontations than gender orientation. So I will continue to treat the ladies like ladies and have faith they will perceive me as a gentleman on the unit and let it be known in my words, actions, and example that I am there to give 110%....works for me.

You know, I prefer female MDs and have encouraged my daughter to see a female MD (I had a couple of VERY bad experiences with male MDs when I was young and cute). I can also say that I've had some very good male MDs who never gave me any problem. But, having had the prior experiences, it took a while for them to win me over.

HOWEVER, having had several surgeries, a couple of babies and both male and female RNs, it didn't matter what sex the nurse was...except for the one woman who didn't do her job and allowed my foley bag to fill all the way up to the catheter...what a mess that was...

The RNs (with that one exception) were very professional and I felt comfortable in their care; in fact never even considered the sex because none of the RNs (unlike the bad MDs) brought a sexual aspect to the care I received.

To all you "GUYS" out there, welcome to nursing, hopeing more of you come on board, your needed for far more than back strength!!! I know lots of men who would have made wounderful nurses had the ranks moved away from the preset ideal that it was a womans job years ago! As men and women we all have our problems but when we come together with open minds and a williness to work together--- great things can and will happen, not because we were male or felmale but because we worked together towards a common goal--- MAKING NURSING what it was ment to be " A NOBLE PROFESSION". Nursing needs to see a lot less back stabbing and a lot more co-operation among its ranks!!!! Thats my 2cents worth anyway!!!!

I am really glad that this thread got started. Thanks to the guys for all your comments. Just having an awareness of bias towards males will help change the attitude.

I have a very good friend, male nurse. He is the one who is always called, too. It isn't always about lifting, he is often called to start IVs, because that guy could find blood if he stuck a turnip. He can get a line in when NO ONE else can, almost always on the first stick, after everyone else made a pin cushion out of the patient. Talented, dedicated, and one of the best nurses I've ever been around.

So why I am mentioning him? Because there wasn't a day that went by that someone -- patient, nurse, or family member -- didn't ask him why would he ever want to be a nurse? Why not be a PA or a doctor? For some reason, he always got the shifts no one else wanted, always got scheduled on holidays, was always given the dirty end of the stick.

He finally yielded to the pressure and became a physician's assistant. Now he only works for one person: a doctor. The CCU lost the best nurse they'll ever hope to have.

Specializes in Pediatric Rehabilitation.

Kevin,

You're right in reference to a nursing problem and this IS what this thread is about. What I was trying to show, probably wrongfully, is that all of us go through some type "ism" in nursing. Doesn't make one more right than another. I think the whole underlying problem is with the attitudes of nursing instructor's in general, not just a gender bias. I do not deny that male student's have a harder time in school, I even talked about this in another post. I have a good friend in NP school, right now. Three months prior to graduation, he was "advised" to change his major.."he wasn't cut out for this program", although he's maintained a 3.6gpa. As he and I discussed this, I advised him to bite his tongue for the next three months...grin and bear it. I think one problem comes from the fact that men are more outspoken and nursing instructor's are used to being in total control. Again, the instructor's are wrong, but I still think this is one cause of the conflict. My friend is very outspoken and had spoken one time too many.

However, ANY "ism" in nursing school is wrong, whether it's a society "ism" or not. It hurts the person who is being singled out, whether it's because you're male, white, black, etc. Unfortunately, I feel there is only one way to change the problems of male nurses. An increased in the percentage of male nurses will smother the preconceived notions that hurt ya'll.

I apologize if my post looked as if I intended to lessen the focus of your problems in nursing school. I only wanted to show that white males are not the only one's who are picked on in nursing school. Just imagine how the black males are treated...??

Again, Kev..thanks for a nondefensive debate. I always appreciate your posts!

Tracy

I admit i sometimes wonder what a wonderfull thing would be to have more male nurses where i work, to help me with the dependent patients. But I do Know this kind of wishing is unfair and i do the job just as well without them. Me and my female companions.

Besides... i feel males aren't important just for the lifting. In fact, that's just a small aspect of their importance. Their most usefull just by talking to male patients, and just by making them feel better (as you know, some man prefer to talk about certain aspects with other man). And even the female patients like to talk to male nurses. You can see it in their eyes. Also, working in an all female environment can be very boring. A male can be very refreshing, even if he's speaking about sports or something like that.

Male nurses are important and should be more. That's a fact.

Well, just to finish, at the present moment there is only one male nurse working in my unit. And he's not at all constantly requested to help with the heavy loads (mainly because we're used to manage by ourselves). In fact, he's very relaxed about is work (though not incompetent), but he's excused because working with him is funny, the working hours pass faster and all the patients adore him.

Male nurses have my vote. :)

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