Poor nurses - page 7

by gettingbsn2msn 8,670 Views | 72 Comments

I have been at my facility for 2 years now. I am not complaining about the work--we all know that it is exhausting, patients never satisfied, endlessly busy BUT....now that I have gotten to know some of the nurses at my... Read More


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    [quote=SunshineBaby;4412811]Family health insurance is $200 a month and that's without copays, deductibles, etc. quote]

    You only pay 200 a month for insurance for the entire family? We play close to $700 a month with $30 copays everytime we go to the doctor. And that is through DH's work. If I were to get insurance through my work I would pay over $1200/month for our family!
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    I think the key to surviving on a low salary, and I speak from very personal experience as a former journalist, is living within or even below your means. I think a lot of people are "poor" because they think they need to keep up with the Joneses.

    I've had to strenuously re-evaluate my priorities and turn to a much more frugal, simple way of living. My dollar goes a lot further now. I try to avoid the typical consumerist way of living--I stay out of the malls and I make do with what I have, or I do without. A big difference is that I don't really want things that might be seen as a status symbol. I don't want a big house, and I could easily be happy in a smaller one than my own. I don't need a new car because mine runs and gets me from A to B. I save my money for meaningful things, and I try and make every purchase a conscious choice (really hard to do in this society!).
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    Quote from cmw6v8
    I think a lot of people are "poor" because they think they need to keep up with the Joneses.
    Great point and this applies no matter how much money someone makes. Look at the number of movie stars and sports figures that have met with financial ruin despite making millions of dollars. To a large extent it isn't about how much you make it is about how much you spend and much of that is controllable.
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    I fully agree that nurses (LVNs and RNs) are for the most part grossly underpaid for what they do. But I also find it strange that some folks find it so offensive that someone with little education manages to make a ton of money. One of my friends in high school dropped out when he was sixteen, bought an old pickup, and started driving into the city every day to mow yards. His annual gross income is now close to seven figures as he has 25 two man crews, designs and installs irrigation systems and landscapes, owns his own stone quarry, and has been featured in several trade magazines. The only thing I find offensive is that I had the chance to go in with him when he first started out and turned him down.
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    [quote=prinsessa;4415080]
    Quote from SunshineBaby
    Family health insurance is $200 a month and that's without copays, deductibles, etc. quote]

    You only pay 200 a month for insurance for the entire family? We play close to $700 a month with $30 copays everytime we go to the doctor. And that is through DH's work. If I were to get insurance through my work I would pay over $1200/month for our family!
    Well considering I'm a one income family and only make about $1800 a month with a BSN. Yeah, it's a lot. I wouldn't have insurance at all if it cost $700 a month! I'm not here to get into a ******* contest about who has it worse off. I only want to warn people looking into entering nursing to do your research. I came on here long before I was a nurse and all I saw was these over inflated rates of pay being posted. It is not that way in all areas. Nursing has been nothing but stress with little pay off for me. Looking forward to leaving and going back to a desk job =)
    Last edit by SunshineBaby on Jul 14, '10 : Reason: Clarification
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    Sunshinebaby,

    I am the OP. This is my point exactly. Lots of people have written about driving old cars, lowering the standards of living, buying less (i hardly buy anything). However, my point is why should one have to live like a pauper to be a nurse. I read on these message boards about people taking out student loans to go to nursing school. I am sorry to tell them but you cannot make student loan payments and eat on 18/hr. They can flame me all day long but it does not change my opinion. I have not had a raise in 2 years all the while utilites are going up, groceries up, property taxes up and of course after Jan 1 income taxes going up. One more thing to add, not one soul has mentioned saving for retirement on 18/hr. Why should a nurse who will break his or her back over the course of a career not even make enough to save for their own retirement. Truly astounding if you ask me!
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    Quote from alissadancer
    Oh my goodness, if a nice house costs 180k, $18/hr is very good pay for your area.
    In my neck of the woods, a "starter" home would cost about 300k, and new nurses make about $30/hr. It's still considered far above average pay. I suppose it's all relative though. Even in a low cost state, I imagine it would be hard to afford a house, kids, car, etc. on your own.

    You should certainly be getting more raises though. I hope.
    Places with very low cost of housing are usually not very attractive to live at. Also cost of living is more than just a cost of the house. Cars, gasoline, travel, electronics, food, clothes, cable, internet, cell phone, etc. cost about the same regardless of the area.
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    Good Lord girl, run! I'll agree that it is about limiting yourself to what you can afford, but there are some exceptions. I see people I work with who, after hurricane Katrina, worked 4 12's per week almost every week for 3-4 years straight. So they were able to adjust their lifestyles a bit higher, you know. But, recently, my hospital has begun cutting that kind of overtime out. Not that we don't still need them to work OT, but they're only allowed a bit at a time now. So, it sucks bigtime for them since they financed things on a bigger budget. I know they should have been more conservative, but still.
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    Quote from gettingbsn2msn
    Sunshinebaby,

    I am the OP. This is my point exactly. Lots of people have written about driving old cars, lowering the standards of living, buying less (i hardly buy anything). However, my point is why should one have to live like a pauper to be a nurse. I read on these message boards about people taking out student loans to go to nursing school. I am sorry to tell them but you cannot make student loan payments and eat on 18/hr. They can flame me all day long but it does not change my opinion. I have not had a raise in 2 years all the while utilites are going up, groceries up, property taxes up and of course after Jan 1 income taxes going up. One more thing to add, not one soul has mentioned saving for retirement on 18/hr. Why should a nurse who will break his or her back over the course of a career not even make enough to save for their own retirement. Truly astounding if you ask me!
    OP, I hear you loud and clear. This is a career you plan to retire in, but is struggling to even contribute to that retirement. I'm sadden for you and others in your hospital that can't make ends meet.

    I'm unemployed right now while I'm in school. This has been a humbling experience for me. What I get on unemployment is higher than what some of the LPNs are getting at your hospital. I had to change my lifestyle drastically. I'm gratefully to be able to pay my rent, utilities, etc on what I get. But, I wouldn't feel good to finally get my RN license and land a job that is basically paying me the same amount as unemployment.

    I haven't read through all the posts, but are there any openings somewhere else? Is it feasible for you to possible move? See what areas you can try to cut corners so you can contribute to a savings.
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    Quote from gettingbsn2msn
    I have been at my facility for 2 years now.
    What are the nurse to patient ratios at your hospital?


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