I Said... 'huh?' - page 10

Imagine that you're the NightShift Supervisor and have been for quite awhile with all linens, medical supplies, residents rooms, exit doors,and entry door keys for access, locking or security when... Read More

  1. by   betts
    The Latest in MY Job Search:

    Hello All,
    Well, I've been on 9 interviews with 6 call-backs,had 4 other calls to setup phone interviews from Key West($10,000 hire on bonus) to Jax; from Miami to TampaBay which is great,but you're not going to believe the 3 others reason for non-hire status; R U Ready?; "I've NO experience as a Nurse in Florida".
    SAY WHAT??????
    I started my Healthcare career in Kissimmee in 1969 as a NA(CNA)SNF, on a psych unit as a psych aide, a CNA III for 5 years at a Trauma Center in Orlando(neuro/diabetic unit) while I attended and graduated from Valencia with my ASN. Was recruited to Indiana then to Virginia, yet I've NO Experience as a nurse with the Elderly.
    Add it up, ummmm, almost 30 years; come this August it will be. I've my ASN, BSN(Nursing), and a Bachelors of Science in Healthcare Management. Hold Licenses in all 3 states, nothing against my licenses, as yet??? I asked what of the Nursing Shortage and the new GN's? They said that's different(GN's), and I replied; "They've NO Experience as Nurses either, how is it you can justify your statement"? I was curious to whether they'd received anything negative from my former employer in Virginia(the 'DOOR' one).
    Not worried as I can start at any of the others Tuesday. Does or did anyone else have this excuse given them in Florida or elsewhere? I'll keep up the posting of any and all replies to the original post.
    Have 'A Happy and Safe Memorial Day',
    Betty (betts)
    Last edit by betts on Jun 4, '02
  2. by   amy
    Sent my plea to NBC, on your behalf betts. My closing? Every Nurse Has a Story. how true, how true (sigh).
  3. by   Fervous
    WOW!!! It's hard to believe, but unfortunatley believable. My prayers are with you. Don't give up. We are all with you on this. May God be with you and guide you.
  4. by   betts
    Webster's definition of this 'Corporations' mindset:

    For the Administrator of the facility, VP of this corporation that told me he'd investigate then declined, the Corporation Headquarters that agreed with what I'd approved but stated that they couldn't get involved and that 'Said Administrator' was under investigation,and last but not least, my 'Peers' (Peer Review panelist), whom demonstrated and advocated fully the below definition.

    "Careerism > the policy or practice of advancing one's career often at the cost of one's integrity".
    Last edit by betts on May 28, '02
  5. by   betts
    Director of Nursing

    Location: Fredericksburg State/Province: VA
    Salary: $55,000-$75,000 Duration: Full Time
    Job ID: VEBDONFRED Date Posted: 05/24/2002
    Description:
    Great opportunity with one of the leading providers of healthcare in the country. Seeking a Director of Nursing for a large and active subacute facility in Fredericksburg, VA. Responsible for the overall operation of the nursing department. Successful candidates will be a registered nurse with RN licensure in good standing in Virginia or Virginia Eligible. MUST have at least 2 years of experience in LTC as DON/ADON or equivalent. Knowledge of State and Federal Regulations Good communication and interpersonal skills. Strong leadership and clinical management skills and desire to be part of a winning team. Relocation assistance available. Excellent compensation and benefit package including bonus structure.

    They've also got postings for; ADON,RN's,LPN's,and CNA's.
    As you've read, I was supposed to move into ADON position, and I applied for DON position 3 times with NO Reply.

    Still interviewing in Florida...
  6. by   betts
    Received mail from 'The Facility' today;

    SEPARATION ACTION FORM
    Reason Code 1.01
    Eligible For Re-Hire NO

    REASON CODES
    Involuntary- #13 Conduct

    Note: Explain if Conduct Code:

    Associate 'DIRECTED' another associate to 'Break Down The Door'(lie, never said the word BREAK,simply stated need to gain entry),to central supply the weekend of 4/5/02. Associate ______
    admitted this during interview with E.D.________&
    ADON ________.

    APPROVAL

    Facility comments and notes:
    Category one violation 1.10; "Theft or Attempted Theft, Defacement or Sabotage of Facility, Residents, Visitors,or Associates Property".

    Signed by Executive Director____________

    Copy- Facility personnel file
    Copy- Unemployment compensation agent

    Curiousity: Signed and Dated 4/12/02
    Received today: 05/29/02
  7. by   ohbet
    Some one should publish a book "Nursing Horror Stories"
  8. by   SmBaxter
    Hey Betts! Good luck with this...it's criminal that destruction of property takes precedence over a patient's life! Waiting for a code to call 911? Calling the facility down the street for supplies that are already on the premesis? Not being able to access key equipment because of a locked door to which keys should have readily accessible? This is my definition of a nightmare! Stephen King should use this as a plot! Find a good lawyer, and kick butt!!
  9. by   betts
    Mr. Governor,
    I applaud your approach, admirable as it is; it's not the major problem. What about nurses that come to Florida after the 2 to 3 months wait for a license, only to be told that they've NO Experience practicing as a Nurse in Florida? Granted, we will need to educate ourselves to the laws here, but we knew that when we came. Why should facilities (Corporations) be allowed to "Skirt" the age discrimination laws with the above?
    I returned here, and have almost 30 years experience in healthcare, at my expense in hopes that 'Home' would be different. It's expensive to fly here, rent an auto, temporary housing w/utilities, and then find affordable housing to purchase, without being "Rejected' because we've not had any "Practice" as a nurse here.
    A "Nurse is a Nurse"; "Professional Caregiver", and what we do isn't "Practice", but years of "Education", "Skills Learned and Applied", proven over years of working in short staffed facilities, long hour's, and all to often, with uncaring "Corporations" that terminate us for unjust causes because we "Care about those we Care for".

    Mr. Governor,
    We want the "Respect", and the "Dignity" afforded other "Professionals", such as "Firemen and Teachers" get with home purchases. Relocation expenses, and the right to do our "Jobs" without "Fear" or "Intimidation". In short "JOB SECURITY". Immediate and affordable "Health Insurance", without the 90 day constraints.

    Our motto:
    "We Care What's Given and We Give What Cares"; "We're Healthcare Professionals".
    Respectfully,

    Letter sent to Governor Bush in Florida commenting on his new law concerning nurses in Florida. Input?
  10. by   betts
    I've accepted a position with a "Revolutionary Corporation"! They actually DO CARE about the residents and staff! Whoa, what a concept; Caring for the Health of others when your a Healthcare Corporation!

    I feel reprieved and grateful that they looked upon me with respect , an individual with integrity, without question to my knowledge of nursing; per: past resolve.

    My first week and already they're talking of me becoming a "Corporate Nurse",advocating their policies; policies I believe in, and have attempted to initiate everywhere I've been.

    I still need your support as I WILL NOT GIVE IN, GIVE UP,or COWER to the "Latch-Key Corporation." They also agreed that I shouldn't!

    06/03/02> Made an offer on a Pool Home...will know if they accepted after 5pm today. My husband says that we're going to have a "Enclose the Pool with a Screen Enclosure Party" if they do. When it comes to being "Mechanically Inclined", my husband isn't... Always has parts left over. lol
  11. by   betts
    UPDATE: Reply from the Florida DOH; I'd sent the message to Govenor Bush whom must of forwarded.

    Subj: FW: Nurses Act
    Date: 6/5/2002 7:34:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    From: Dan_Coble@doh.state.fl.us
    To: Betts8753@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)




    Hi Betty,

    Sorry to hear that you had difficulty in the transition to Florida. You will find that there are some real opportunities for nurses right now in Florida. The competition in the Orlando area has opened up attractive salaries, bonuses and improving working conditions. I think you can find a rewarding career here, especially with your 30 years of experience.

    Dan



    ____________________________________________

    Dan Coble, RN PhD CNAA C, BC
    Executive Director, Florida Board of Nursing
    4052 Bald Cypress Way, Bin #C02
    Tallahassee, FL 32399-3252
    ____________________________________________

    850-245-4158
    850-245-4172 FAX
    http://www.doh.state.fl.us/mqa/nursing/nur_home.html
  12. by   betts
    UPDATE:
    Subj: Re: I Said.....'huh'
    Date: 6/6/2002 2:48:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    From: jennifercampbell2@hotmail.com
    To: Betts8753@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)



    DEAR BETTY,

    PLEASE SEND YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR CALL OUR OFFICE TO SPEAK WITH JUDITH
    DIRECTLY--757-498-8600.

    OUR EMAIL SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN FUNCTIONING CORRECTLY AND IS STILL IN THE
    PROCESS OF BEING FIXED AT THE OFFICE...JUDITH DOES NOT HAVE EMAIL
    ACCESS--BUT DID RECEIVE YOUR REPORT.

    WE WORK ON THIS ISSUE ON A DAILY BASIS, 7 DAYS A WEEK, ON AN ALL VOLUNTEER
    BASIS, AND HAVE OURSELVES EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN IN
    YOUR REPORT....WE, OF COURSE, FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE ISSUE HAS
    MERIT--AS WE HAVE DEDICATED OUR LIVES TO IT.

    IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS YOURSELF DEDICATED TO
    THE EFFORT.

    IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE CITIZENS' COMMITTEE TO PROTECT
    THE ELDERLY, PLEASE SEND YOUR ADDRESS VIA EMAIL AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU
    RECEIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

    SINCERELY,
    JENNIFER CAMPBELL
  13. by   lncmitch
    ...AND THEY WONDER WHY THERE IS A NURSING SHORTAGE..

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