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- Apr 12, '11 by canesdukegirlOh HOLD UP!!!! You were given THIRTEEN DAYS of orientation?!? That is beyond ridiculous. A new nurse needs AT LEAST 6 months of orientation, with periodic meetings with your NM or NE to get/give feedback. Your employer was completely unreasonable. I feel so badly for you.
You are in a pickle, no doubt. My gut feeling is to list the facility on your resume, but I can see the potential harm in doing that. Any NM who looks at your resume will ask you about it, and when you tell them what happened, they will be just as shocked as I am that you only had 13 days of orientation. However, the dilemma lies in getting your foot in the door to be interviewed in the first place.
It sounds like your facility was under the budgetary gun and you were the first victim. I know that the new fiscal year starts soon and budgetary reviews are commencing now in preparation. I think you just got caught in the cross-fire, honey. Soooo unfair to you.
Do you have anywhere in particular that you are looking now? I know this has crushed you, but don't let this crisis dismantle your worthiness. You worked hard to get your license and you were given an unfair pile of (fill in the blank) to deal with. As hard as it may be, pick yourself up and carry on. There is NO WAY possible that you as a new nurse can be fairly judged on performance after 13 freaking days. That being said, you will do well to view this as THEIR loss, not YOURS. This scenario is akin to a homeowner firing a contractor because their house was not completely built in 2 weeks.
I will share with you that I worked at a facility for exactly 3 months and 4 days before I figured out that it was COMPLETELY unsafe for me to work there. The facility itself was involved in a rather large lawsuit resulting from unsafe conditions. I didn't know that when I was hired, but I soon realized that this place was the Seventh Level of Hell. I couldn't get my resume out there fast enough. I had an interview with a NM who knew of the facility, and she just shook her head and asked me why it took me so long to leave! She hired me on the spot. Nurse Managers are largely aware of what goes on in facilities that are not exactly up to par. This is why I am on the fence about whether or not you should list them on your resume.
If I could give you a gi-normous hug right now, I would do it in a skinny minute. My thoughts are with you.
- Apr 12, '11 by canesdukegirlQuote from systolyEXACTLY what I was trying to say in my rather laborious, wordy post. Sometimes I get "diarrhea of the mouth". Sheesh.Sometimes you can use it to your benefit. If the facility in question has a poor rep, a better facility might consider a short tenure at a poorly run place an indication that you will not stoop to low standards.
- Apr 12, '11 by hiddencatRNQuote from psu_213Yes, I understood what you meant.First, I appreciate that you corrected my misinformation...
The part that I find a bit shady is having someone call the former employer and LIE about their motives.
I was very tempted to have a fake reference check done on me with a certain former employer. When I was still employed I overheard my direct supervisor give the most horrible reference for the person I was replacing...who had worked for him for 7 years and was one of the few employees able to deal with him for so long. He was very unhappy that she decided to leave the company and the reference he gave seemed completely retaliatory. Luckily I found out he was no longer employed with the company, but that experience makes finding out what your references are saying seem much less shady to me.
But as I said before, the best thing to do with questionable references is to leave them off the resume if possible. In the case of 13 days of employment, you don't lose any job history or experience in leaving it off the resume.
- Apr 12, '11 by caliotter3Quote from FutureNurse_8708Thirteen days is not experience. It is nothing more than long enough for someone in a position of power to decide that there is something about you they do not like. I would leave it off.This is a tough one. It was so unfair of that place to make you do something that you do not agree with, plus they only gave you 13 days and probably didn't even inform you that you had that little. I would keep that off of my resume completely, but then again, it would be good to have it on there to show that you have some experience. Weigh out your pros and cons.
- Apr 12, '11 by don2I would put in my resume my 8mos CNA job and make no mention about ur RN job from other facilities though theyre of sister company yet its another workplace, afterall, if nursing experience is an edge to be employed, what then 13days experience be beneficial for your personal and professional growth, nevertheless, it is insignificant and be doubtful if u mention it. besides, be it a one month or 13days experience, it is still a level entry nurse youll be functioning and be paid. gudluck to your career, let us know about ur progress! Godbless!
- Apr 12, '11 by willowRNthank you so much guys for sharing me your insights, it gives me great comfort to have somebody to talk to since i feel so ashamed that i got terminated from my first job. and try as i may i could not see what i could have done more to keep it. having you guys make my burden less heavy.. thank you for all your prayers I'm trying to keep my faith during this very trying time... never have i imagined in all my daydreaming while in nursing school this would happen to me, first rn job and i got fired. i hope to make you understand that i promised myself i'll have a good work history and when they ambushed, it's like i've broken a vow and the life drained out of me.. i'm sorry i can't pick myself up too quickly.. thank you for your kind thoughts
- Apr 12, '11 by 79TangoFirst Off, I would like to welcome you to the club. You would be surprised at how many GREAT RNs that have been fired. At least you got it out of the way & can now move on. Sounds like you got put in the grinder.. Dont feel bad--Ive seen people fired for giving eye drops 30minutes late.
I would list your CNA & RN experience. You do not have to list "Terminated" on the resume and it will show that youve had an RN job. You can put the name of the Facitity and the dates as CNA/RN. Managers will look at you as a New Grad RN and typically wont hold it against you.. As long as your open and honest about it.
You might let it slip you had 13 days of orientation and tried your best to work with the tools you were given but thats it. I wouldnt blame them for throwing you to the wolves just tell them you tried your hardest and learned from it.
- Apr 12, '11 by freebirdRN86i was once told by an HR person that you should only put down jobs that you worked at least a month at.
- May 6, '11 by PhoenixAllenQuote from willowRNSometimes, in your case, you must start with a superb resume. Try looking here - professional resumePlease help me.
I worked as a CNA in this facility (my first job ever) for 8 months and then i acquired my RN license since they have no openings they referred me to their sister facility...
- May 6, '11 by Rob72Quote from psu_213It is exactly what a private investigator will do when pursuing a defamation of character/slander suit against a company. This is the reason HR will generally say no more than, "Individual X was employeed here from YY-ZZ." Of course, if the respective HR directors went through the same MBA program, you're looking at the Good Ol' Boy Network.As I said, this was not legal advice, just what I had been told in the past....the last part sounds a bit shady though.
If you give a general area where you are seeking eomplyment, someone here might be able to tell you if a particular facility has an intership policy. I believe this is standard with Veterans and HCA facilities, at least in the ICs, now.