Crepitus

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I had this one pt last week and this has been eating at me. The pt had a right sided chest tube. Suction was d/c'd that day and it was to gravity drainage. The tube was sutured in place. He slept throughout the night but at 5 am he had a 3rd dose of solu medrol which was started the day before. Our techs do hourly rounds on the pts and I will pop my head in to make sure that everyone is sleeping soundly or if they're awake see if there's a problem. He called about 6:15 saying that he was having some swelling of his face. I go in and sure enough his face is markedly swollen. He was having no problems breathing, no problems swallowing and no pain, but just some edema of the face and neck. I immediately call his attending (but it was his partner who was on-call)who said it was probably edema related to the solu-medrol. I explained what a change it was from 5 to 6:15. He said he'd see him first when he came in. I relayed all of this information back to the pt and reassessed the fact he was having no breathing/swallowing problems or pain but told him to call me if he was having any further changes or problems.

At shortly after 7 as I'm giving report to the next shift, the doctor comes out to the nurses station and says the pt has crepitus and he was going to call the pulmonary sugeon who put the chest tube in. He also calls his colleague who is the true attending. Myself and the oncoming nurse go in because frankly neither of us has ever seen crepitus and wanted to have a feel as did many on the floor. One seasoned nurse said that in 15 years she's never seen crepitus in a pt. I finish giving report going in to the pt to again reassess for any discomfort or difficulties in airway or swallowing noting that his right eye was beginning to swell which I relayed back to the oncoming nurse and document the whole series of events that had occurred.

I go in that night and look at the pt board and see he's not in my section, so I ask the CC why. She said that the family was very upset and felt I didn't do enough to help him out or didn't check on him enough through the night. He was checked on by someone hourly! I also found out that when the dr who visited him called the attending he was asked if the chest tube was connected to suction and he said yes. When the attending came in around 1pm and found it wasn't (because the thoracic surgeon d/c'd the suction the day before) he went through the roof and the pt suffered with the edmea of the crepitus from 5am until at least 1 when the suction was applied and the edema started to go down. The chest tube was repositioned and the surgeon went ballistic that he wasn't called first. However later that day (he was another nurse's pt) he had a relapse of the crepitus and quickly fixed. I had the weekend off and thought he was discharged and found he's on another floor. Not upgraded, not downgraded but just another med/surg floor. All of a sudden we all had to attend an in-service on chest tubes and crepitus and they referenced that pt (not knowing it was me who had him that first night).

A friend of mine told me to make sure my insurance is paid up in case he decides to sue. Now I'm all paranoid that I did something wrong. I'd never seen crepitus. Many of the other more seasoned nurses have never seen crepitus. Even the educator who's been a nurse for 30 years says shes only seen it twice. My first thought was allergic reaction (but to solu-medrol?) and wasn't really buying that it was swelling from the med, but I would not have thought crepitus. What do y'all think?

Specializes in ER OB NICU.

Crepitus isn't encountered as much today, as I have in the past. I once was driving home from the store on a highway, and saw this car upside down in the middle of a yard. Pulled over and found the driver thrown out through the window, several yards from the car,(it flipped 3 times) and he was laying unconscious, with his neck at a weird angle. First , of course, ABCs, and I made sure he was breathing, held his neck so it would not move should he awaken. No alcohol on breath, but felt the crepitus as I was basically feeling for fractures around clavicle, neck, etc. Called 911, had to wait forever for ambulance, even after they arrived, it took forever. Reported the crepitus, and LOC since I arrived, put on collar, and the paramedic, told me, You wouldn't know if it were crepitus, and he doesn't have it. WRONG

You took the steps outlined in the protocol for your unit. The physcian should have noted the signs. BUT they miss too. Perhaps the attending should have addressed his frustrations with the ON call dr.

Thank you for sharing with us! It's been interesting to see how everyone has responded. I hope you don't stress out about this. It's a great learning experience for all of us. I'm glad your facility decided to do and inservice that you found helpful. Keep up the good work!!

Specializes in Telemetry/Med Surg.

Thanks for posting your experience and to NRSKaren for the timely references. We sometimes get chest tubes on my floor so I'm going to be doing some reading up on them.

I'm with Karen. Have seen crepitus as described several times with chest tubes. Think of it as air trapped under the skin- you have air leaking out, so if it's not self-contained to a small area like in the OP's pt, that's why you put the pt back to suction ASAP. Always palpate edemaous sites, so you can feel for crepitus. You can have crepitus with fractures as well, but it's usually around bursa, skull fx's (think sinuses), or with rib fx's.

Me too. I have worked on respiratory units for almost 20 years. Seen crepitus in the upper chest, neck many times. It happens, again always remember to palpate edema. Edema in the those areas is never normal, there is always a specific cause.

Specializes in ICU/ER/TRANSPORT.

Had a few sub-q air pt's in the past, the worst was a 70 something male who was having recurrent pulmonary blebs and pneumos, that required surgical intervention and chest tube sxn. But anyway, this guy developed a leak inside his insertion site and started to swell, we were marking so much on his chest that he looked liked a coloring book.. all the doc's kept putting him off as far as coming in to take a look at him. Swelling from jaw line down to his lt hand, his hand literally look like bad 3rd spacing. Remained stable by respertory/hemmodynamic wise, but was impressive to say the least.

Specializes in ER, Occupational Health, Cardiology.

I first saw subcutaneous emphysema (and it was called that) back in 1983. A pt who was dying of lung CA ruptured a bleb. Subq emphysema is not due to a buildup of fluid (I read "edema" in the original post), but the entrance of atmospheric air into the chest cavity.

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