Cheating In School

[cokie]

just read a long thread about lowering the standards etc. for people with special needs. how about cheaters. i went to school with quite a few people who were not only sharing notes from the previous semester, but also test answers, fully written care plans, magazine reports. i know that this is cheating, that is not my question. my question is, isn't it better for someone to have to work very hard for a 73% and be passed, than to achieve by cheating. please don't get me wrong, i am in no way saying that all the 4.0 people are cheating, but quite a few people in my class SHARED answers. i think that it is wrong, but didn't have many on my side. any one else experience this, and feel that they are quite alone in feeling that this is wrong. i don't want to work on the floor with people who cheated their way through school. i think that these are the truly dangerous people, not my co-workers who occasionally ask me to help them with a drug calculation. take care and have a great week.........

[jennielynn]

At my school--if you are caught cheating--you are thrown out; no questions asked!!! I think it's only fair. The Nursing profession is know for it's honesty and integrity.......you are not only cheating yourself out of valuable information but could also be cheating someone out of their right to live! It makes me mad that some people get away with this and still get to recieve the title of RN. :angryfire People depend on us to help them; why would you want to risk making a stupid mistake because you cheated your way through Nursing school? It's people's lives we're dealing with here---we wouldn't want that kind of half -orificed treatment if we were lying in that bed!

[Rep]

Cheating is wrong and done regularly becomes a habit. What if this cheater becomes a nurse someday. Patient care is compromise. I say nursing schools must have a strong policy against cheating and cheaters should be booted out of the nursing programs. We are not dealing here with numbers but patients' lives.

[dimpsogre]

I would be very surprised if any accredited college or university did not have academic misconduct procedures in place. Students are rarely accused of cheating by professors in universities, but this has nothing to do with school 'PR', nor apathy. Although specific policies vary among institutions, accusing a student of cheating typically results in an investigation by a university academic misconduct committee. Both the professor and student would be called to 'testify' before the committee. However, the professor's word alone (if the student denies the cheating) is in most cases insufficient to censure the student, and a student would certainly not be failed (if the student challenged the professor's decision), expelled, or otherwise officially censured (i.e. with a permanent mark on the transcript) based on suspicion alone. In other words, the professor must go through a number of bureaucratic loops with minimal chance of success, unless substantial evidence of cheating is available. Censuring a student without substantial proof is an invitation for a lawsuit, and professors and university administrators know this.

[Agatha]

I'm one of those really mean people who gives out wrong answers to people who ask me....(evil grin). Nobody asked me for any more answers after that, bwahahaha....

Yay, FsPilotMed1!! tee-hee-hee, I'm going to have to remember that.

I could rant on this forever. Grrrrr!

when someone cheats and inflates his/her grade, it reduces the value of every honestly earned grade in the class!! Sure, they eventually get caught and ultimately don't make it somewhere, but till they do, their fellow students pay the price.

as a teacher, i was impotent unless i could nab them redhanded.

teaching in college, i just gave another test, and made it impossible for the culprit. but teaching in high school, i had to confiscate something tangible -- my word counted for nothing!!! :angryfire

one student stood up leaned over the desk of the girl in front of him and copied an answer. they were both culpable. i wrote them both up. the vice-principle sent it back down to the dept head who explained how it worked. and they can't figure out why alabama students do so poorly on their high school exit exams. duh.

[Corrections RN]

I think that written English should be taught, and used.