Another nurse bites the dust due to facebook - page 16
I don't know the woman in question, yet news reports acknowledge that facebook has caused another job termination casualty in the nursing community. I know there are numerous posts regarding this topic, yet I figure sharing this... Read More
- 4Dec 19, '10 by BabyLadyQuote from SweettartRNI would agree with you...other than the small detail that probably everyone on her Facebook account knows she is a nurse and knows which hospital she works at.I am going to play devil's advocate here; I think that if she can find a lawyer, she can probably get her job back.
It is said that she wrote that she came face to face with a cop killer and hoped he rotted in hell.
If that is what she REALLY wrote, then who's to say she didn't run into him at the gas station, the grocery store, visiting a friend in jail, etc.
There was nothing in that statement to say that she did this at work, at a specific hospital nor who the person was.
We have the right to freedom of speech still in this country. I don't see where HIPPA was violated except by CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, which is usually not even admissable in court.
We have the right to exercise our liberties in the privacy of our own home. She did that, and I personally don't think she did anything wrong.
When she said that she came face-to-face with a cop-killer this is what she did:
1. Her friends knew she was a nurse
2. Her friends knew which hospital
3. The cop-killer was in the local news as killing a cop (or would be soon)....thus, his name was in the news, Tyrece (sp?) Matthews.
So everyone on her friends list knew that Tyrece Matthews was her patient at Oakwood Hospital...and I would wager that Mr Matthews didn't consent to her friends knowing about that.
Yes, THAT IS a HIPAA violation and there is no question that she should be fired.
She was also stupid enough to go on the news and say she wouldn't take back what she said...she can save her money on an attorney because that didn't help her case either.
The fact that it was her computer, on her own time, is 100% irrelevant.
- 0Dec 19, '10 by NicuGalAlso, remember, most hospitals now have networking policies in place. I know we do and it clearly states what they deem is fireable. For example, you better not say bad things about the place and they get wind of it, in other words, don't poop where you sleep. Also, it clearly states about privacy laws etc. So if you break this policy and the people in the ivory tower find out, you might as well pack up and move on.
People just have to watch what they put. Use common sense.
- 0Dec 31, '10 by backatit2i have seen stories of people being fired/punished over facebook that i thought were ridiculous. this is not one of them. she is STUPID!
when i was working on my teaching degree, i read about a teaching STUDENT who got kicked out of her program bc she had a picture with a st. patty's day hat where she was holding a beer on myspace. you couldn't even tell it was a beer - it was in a cup - the cup wasn't see through, etc. i think THAT was stupid.
but for a nurse who is working on a patient to say she came face to face with a "cop killer" etc., the first thing that comes to mind is "she probably didn't try too hard to save/help him."
i would think a presumably intelligent person such as a nurse would know better. no pity here.
- 0Dec 31, '10 by TerpGal02, ADN, RNWhy why WHY do people post questionable stuff on FB, MySpace, Twitter, etc and are SURPRISED when there are ramafications to what they say? The internet is NOT private, in fact I think you lose a certain amount of privacy posting on social networking sites. That is why my FB privacy settings are VERY tightly controlled and I have NEVER friended anyone that I have worked with in the past. Too many things can go wrong.
- 0Dec 31, '10 by CuriousMeQuote from TerpGal02Why do folks keep saying that the "internet is not private?" Of course the internet isn't private, but we're not talking about posting this on an open website somewhere...we're talking about posting on a site that allows us to control who sees the content we provide. For example, Facebook provides far more privacy than AN does. What I post on FB doesn't show up in Google searches (because they are private), whereas all AN posts do.Why why WHY do people post questionable stuff on FB, MySpace, Twitter, etc and are SURPRISED when there are ramafications to what they say? The internet is NOT private, in fact I think you lose a certain amount of privacy posting on social networking sites. That is why my FB privacy settings are VERY tightly controlled and I have NEVER friended anyone that I have worked with in the past. Too many things can go wrong.
Now, if we do not choose wisely about who can see the content we post, or if we are unwise in what content we post....is the problem that the "internet" has no privacy? Or that users didn't use the privacy settings available wisely?
- 0Jan 2, '11 by diane227In this particular situation, you bet it got her fired. And the main reason for that termination I would suspect is because she must have given indication that she worked at that particular facility. When you make public comment that may in any way be interpreted as coming from that facility, you can be terminated unless you get prior approval. Let me give you another example. Back in the day before Facebook and the like, people would write letters to the editor. I had a nurse who was working for me in the ED who wrote a letter to the editor regarding her dislike of a particular political candidate. In her letter she made reference to her work in the ED and signed her name, RN and the name of the facility where she worked. She was terminated. Because it came across as a comment from the facility, not from a private citizen.
I am a member of several blogs, Facebook and Newsvine and I am very vocal about my opinion. But I am VERY CAUTIOUS. I never ever make reference to where I work or have worked and I make it clear that any opinion that I express about an issue is my own. If there is an issue that concerns the organization that I work for, I do not comment. If it concerns a patient that I know about, I do not comment. I might comment that I am a registered nurse but I never ever make reference to my workplace. EVER.
And I NEVER EVER under any circumstances send anything but business email from my work email. NEVER EVER. And no on line shopping or checking of my private email.
The bottom line is that once it is out on the internet, it is there for everyone to see. If you send an email to anyone always make the assumption that EVERYONE is going to see it. I have stopped sending email of a problem nature at work. I talk to the person directly.
- 1Jan 2, '11 by blueheavenI keep telling people to be careful what they post on FB etc. So far it has fallen on frozen keyboards and deaf ears.
I use FB to keep up with family and a few friends primarily, but to vent about work etc. NO WAY!! I'm suprised that no one (that I know of) has been terminated from posting on ALLNURSES.