Accommodations in nursing school- are they good? - page 2
I know that school has changed quite a bit over the years. The numbers of kids with designated special needs seems astronomical compared with when I was younger. I didn't realize until recently that... Read More
0Oct 12, '11 by JBMmommy, RNThanks for the replies (glad I didn't seem to have offended many after the first couple). ADNRNSTUDENT, I particularly appreciate your response and you make many valid points. As I said, I posted it for nurses because I wasn't sure that nursing school and the real world cross-over much, as you mentioned.
Another thing I've always wondered is whether we give labels too quickly. I'm pretty sure that if most of my 40-somethings colleagues took some of these diagnostic tests today (myself included), we'd be labeled ADD at least, and a host of other things (social phobia, ineptitude, etc) as well. Maybe we were better off not knowing it. Even just from the standpoint of ignorance to the fact that a diagnosis doesn't define a person. I wonder whether some people limit themselves because other people think they can't do something, that would be sad.
0Oct 12, '11 by Gently.meI think accomodations are acceptable within reason.
I remember in nursing school, we constantly had a disruptive student who would fall asleep in class only to wake herself up, and ask questions about something she missed when she was sleeping. Add that to always being late, not having a great hygiene (she had hand fungus on all nails) and constantly disrupting class, and there is a problem. She was given accomodations and those accomodations disrupted the rest of us.
I think this lady is a great person who has had some tough times. I do not think she was cut out to be a nurse. When we had a vital sign assessment test, I told her i would be her volunteer to practice on. She pumped my BP cuff all the way, and let it out VERY slowly. Then her cell phone rang mid test, and she answered it! My hand was purple and numb. Obviously, she didnt make it through nursing school.
Moral of the story: If you are not cut out for nursing and the "real world", it will catch up to you.
1Oct 12, '11 by danh3190I think the OP raises some valid points. If distractions and noise are a problem for you, you definitely shouldn't work on my floor. I was just wondering though whether the people with these problems might not be able to find some niche in the nursing world where they could function effectively.
2Oct 12, '11 by Nascar nurse, ASN, RNQuote from adnrnstudentYes about NCLEX , time and a half I believe it is. I'm a 2nd year A.D.N. student with ADHD and agraphia. When I take tests with class and not at testing center, I am always the last one out.
I too believe O.P. asked a fair question. Here are things for O.P. to consider.
In the real world, I don't have to do dimensional analysis on my math. In nursing school, I can't just list the answer which I can solve in my head almost instantly, but in nursing school, I have to show my work. It takes me forever to figure out how to set those things up, and I already have the problem solved.
In the real world, I know what to do for conditions, but in nursing school on multiple choice tests I have to sit and think about what could be 4 right answers but have to think about which one is most right for the test.
I am a very robotic and black and white person. I recently took a test in Mother-Baby where there were 2 very right answers. I took the test with my class, I didn't use special accommodations testing center.
I went up to teacher and said elevated estrogen is right answer, it can make hands itch, I said but so is protein loss in blood. Protein pulls fluid from extracellular space so without it, hands can get swollen and itch too.
She said, "Oh you are WAY overthinking that. Choose the simple answer."
So the right answer was estrogen, but a robotic person like me could look at that question for hours.
On another note:
I think a problem we are facing in this country is labeling and judging people for asking questions.
If a person publicly questions for instance about the welfare of children being adopted into gay families, that doesn't make that person a homophobe full of hate.
I applaud the O.P. for asking the question.
What a refreshing change. A student that is well spoken, not arrogant and demonstrates style and grace instead of defensiveness. I understand your position perfectly after your explanation and I want to wish you the best.
0Oct 12, '11 by beckster_01I appreciate this question as well. I think that the "tests" we face in real life are completely different than paper tests we must take in school. There was one student in my class who was TERRIBLE at taking tests. Even when she went to the learning center, she could never manage to get the best grades. However when it came to class projects and group presentations, I loved having her in my group. Even though she didn't process information from her head to a piece of paper as well others, she was the most creative and intelligent people in the class. In contrast, I have always been better at transcribing my thoughts to paper. I like to be able to see my words and make sure that they are organized. I have a hard time verbalizing my thoughts, so even if I have the correct rationale, I had a difficult time talking to doctors/providers once I started working because I lacked that skill. As long as a person knows their weaknesses and figures out a way to improve or work around it, I don't see any issues.
I agree that in the "real world" we cannot expect accommodations to be made for us. But I do think that students who do get testing accommodations can be just as successful as the "average learner."
0Oct 12, '11 by MagsMomFWIW, med students also get accommodations if they qualify. They also get accommodations on the MCAT and USMLE. So do PA students, OT students, PT students, law student, etc.
The idea is to level the playing field - not give an advantage. Eventually, if a student is not suited for nursing they will have to deal with it.
To be fair, I never felt this way until my daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia and dysgraphia. She went through extensive remediation and OT and compensates very well. She does not need accommodations now in 7th grade -but she has had advantages of specialized tutoring, OT and a mother who never let her use her diagnosis as a crutch; many people often just given accommodations and not taught how to cope/compensate for their disability.