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- Nov 22, '12 by SCSTxRNQuote from RN2BKTI honestly think so me of the odd aggression is because we ARE a female dominated field. Think mean girl, all grown up. Relational aggression - as opposed to physical aggression - appears common in estrogen dominated environments (high school, education majors, nursing majors, even some cosmetology type professions) - and because it is not as easy to spot as the physical /overt verbal aggression that men are known for, it's easier to miss until you're a victim.I'm 44 and got the calling to become a nurse 5 years ago. Before that I spent 13 years in the corporate world and before that, 11 years in hospitality. You just don't see this kind of thing in either industry. Or other industries I've worked alongside like banking, credit, insurance, retail etc. Yes, there's more subversive politics at play, like dealing with an Old Boy's Club but nowhere, not even with the jerkiest of coworkers have I ever dealt with this type of flat-out aggression.
IDK - that's my psychobabble point of view. FWIW
- Nov 22, '12 by AnoetosWhat is the best way to deal with it?
Directly or just ignore it?
- Nov 22, '12 by That GuyQuote from squatmunkie_RNYup. You nailed it. I hate all new nurses and expect everyone to be 20 year vets and ask the right questions and give the best report. Please. You dont know anything about me. If Vida ever came on here again she could testify to how I am in real life, might kinda shock you.This person sounds just like those 1/3rd of nurses you're talking about. Sad he/she doesn't even seem to realize it. You shouldn't have to take it just because you're 46 and should be use to it by now.
- Nov 22, '12 by woohFor the same reason new firefighters and new police officers and new waste management specialists and new attorneys and new Wal-Mart workers and new EVERYONE isn't immediately welcomed into their new jobs with hugs and gifts and parties.
Strangely, nobody in those jobs whines about it like new nurses.
- Nov 22, '12 by BostonTerrierLoverRNOk, everybody, I have chocolate and cigarettes.
I think Obama would handle this with an outdoor beer, but then again, would you want to drink a beer with her and Obama? (Ah, the ignore it and move-on advice would sound better to me- that would be a bit intimidating for me- plus, I hate beer.
(But it worked for those guys)Last edit by BostonTerrierLoverRN on Nov 22, '12
- Nov 22, '12 by anotheronelike i said earlier. i think some of this "mean to me" is defensiveness. especially when someone doesnt ask a question with smiles and giggles.
- Nov 22, '12 by Ruby VeeQuote from AtivanIMYou're missing the point. The new guy didn't realize the importance of knowing whether the valve was tissue or mechanical. From the tone of his original post, he still doesn't. That nurse whom he was so sure was just picking on him was trying to have a teaching moment. That's her job as an experienced nurse to help educate the new guys. Not eveeryone is a great teacher, but you can still learn from them. So many of you newer folks are missing a lot of teaching moments because you either don't like the teacher, think you already know it all, or don't like the delivery of the message. Get over yourselves. You do both yourselves and your future patients a disservice when you whine about lateral violence rather than learn what's trying to be taught.Ruby,I never questioned the fact that the information about a valve is important. If it wasn't noted in an otherwise comprehensive report, and remembered on demand, then the oncoming nurse can go and find out the information for themselves. In a prior comment you mentioned to let the "rudeness roll of your back." I don't think putting up with rudeness and lateral violence under the cloak of -maybe they are trying to help you by tearing apart your self esteem- idea is a great one. You seem to have the same theme for new nurses who ask these types of questions: -take the harrassment or get out of the profession-
- Nov 22, '12 by sistasoulThough there may have been teaching going on the tone of the OP message was one of the nurse being condescending. Whether that is true or not is hard to ascertain from not being privy to the interactions. It is all in the perception of the message. There is the golden rule of being kind to one another that is being ignored. Treat one another as you would like to be treated and all will be well. No need of belittleling a new nurse regardless of age who is probably trying their best to survive their first year. I work on a med-surge floor and it is very difficult to know everything going on in your patient's history. Especially the first day you are on. The only people I know that can actually sit down and read charts are on the third shift but that is not always the case.