What would you do ROOKIE? - page 3

So you have worked hard, very hard. The past few years have been gruesome. You have suffered, rejoiced, cried, failed, shook it off and got back up, succeeded, endured countless sacrifices and... Read More

  1. by   SuzieVN
    Quote from laceym
    sorry, suzie-i can't email you due to lack of posts
    What was the topic?:
  2. by   samadams8
    So, so, so sad. But I have seen this to be an issue not only for new grads. Trust me. It's beyond that. Hiring freezes have a core cause. Explore, as open-mindedly and honestly as you can what these causes are. They affect more than new grads, believe it or not.
  3. by   samadams8
    Quote from tampicotrauma82
    The only way new grads get jobs as nurses is by doing very well at reputable nursing program and by having their highly reputable professors give your future employer a stamp of approval...
    Even then, it comes down to more than that, b/c you have a lot of grads with great GPAs and the like. Same thing with experienced nurses as well.

    Until some political changes come into play, which are a long way off, I'm afraid nursing is not the field to go into for most people if you want to find a job--especially if you don't want to have to wait a couple of years or more to find on-- or move to North Dakota.
  4. by   NyteshiftLVN
    Yep! Been there, done that! Stayed nearly two years while I looked for something else several times a week. As soon as something else came along I was gone.

    Edit: Forgot to add that I was never actually called a "rookie" I think my DON was more professional than that. But it was clear that I was brand new out of school. In my school the most patients we ever had were 4 at one time. Then out of school a few months later suddenly I was on my own at night with 56 patients and 3 CNA's after 2 weeks of orientation.
    Last edit by NyteshiftLVN on Apr 6, '13 : Reason: Forgot to add something.
  5. by   Anoetos
    Solution: no matter how hard it is, GET A JOB BEFORE YOU GRADUATE. I know that for some this will not be possible, but there's no excuse for not making the effort.

    They're not lining up to hand jobs to graduates, but they may hire you as a tech while you're still in school and from there the opportunities expand exponentially.
  6. by   HisTreasure
    Your writing is excellent! I did not read all of the comments, but I did read your article, and I can relate to your experience walking those halls of that "half of a star" facility. I've been there. Not as a "rookie", nor as an RN, but as a doe-eyed nurse who felt she could make a difference, and at the core, really just needed a job.

    I was recruited, before graduating, straight out of PN school to one of the best hospital systems in the area. I would be working sub-acute. I would get an excellent orientation, IV certified, brain trauma injury experience, peds experience, peritoneal dialysis... You name it, I would have the opportunity to work with it. As a GPN and then LPN. It was unheard of, and I loved it!

    Working that position, having that facility on my resume, got me into the doors of some of the best facilities; from pediatric to long term care, in the area. My resume was IMPRESSIVE! My career, my qualifications, they were impressive for my license level, and my work ethic has spoken for myself. I felt like I could finally write my own ticket... and I could.
    Until I got seriously hurt at work.

    I became part of the system-wide workers comp network risk assessment, and I couldn't get hired ANYWHERE. Except, of course, the sister-facility to yours. Yep. They wanted me, and I needed them. So I sat the orientation, along with 11 other new hires, and the sheer number of nurses in the room was enough to give me pause. I figured, during the tour, "yes, the halls are dirty, but we can turn this around. We just need teamwork and good leadership." I was confident! This would work. It would have to. I had bills to pay and mouths to feed as well.

    Alas, day 3 of orientation came, and with it, a visit from the State. 3rd visit in so many years. I had heard rumors. The name of the facility had changed accordingly thrice in those three years "under new, better management." I figured, this time they must've gotten it right. Third time is a charm! I remember the cold shivers the State Investigator gave me as he asked my name, title, experience. I remember the frustration and fear that penetrated me as I watched the terrified, overworked floor nurse try to pass her meds (while I shadowed her) with the State eye-balling her and the MAR with nary a blink. I remember the relief I felt as I abruptly decided this was not the place for me and resigned that day.

    A write-up was in the local newspaper some time later regarding the outcome of one of those State visits, and the number of nurses who received infractions and violations on their licenses. I couldn't help but wonder: how many of them had been innocent bystanders, in that same filthy orientation room with me, whom, for whatever reason-didn't trust their intuition and now paid the price?

    Does all of this really help you with your situation? No, it really doesn't. However, solidarity is cathartic and I can empathize. You'll make the right choice, but go with your gut. Money is important, but maintaining your license is vital.
  7. by   netglow
    Or you can be at one of those LTC, SNF wannabes with new owners that was a total rebuild. So, now the "quality measures" part is way up but all the others are still one star. I briefly visited one of these as a hospice nurse and wow it is beautiful - it was nicer than any of the new towers at the hospitals around me. But they got rid of the good staff. I remember coming in to check my patients and saw the state drilling a nurse at the nurses station about some drug, and she just tried to bluff them by speaking mostly in her native language (LOL) nice try . There was only one nurse or tech there who was not foreign. This is true of the majority of facilities in my region. Recently saw an ad for an RN there - they want you to come in to apply so they see if you "fit". Haha, they still are barely hanging on to that one star.
  8. by   Rbey
    I know how difficult it can be. You are doing all the right things. I've found it successful to apply online, then call the facility and find out the name of the director of the department you want to work at, call and connect with that hiring director to inform her you just put in an application with HR. I have found many times they are not aware of it, as HR has not sent it, it just gets lost amongst the numerous applications. I do know that quarterly, some hospitals in CA include one or two new graduate positions. Find out what those dates are. I would use FB and Linked In to begin networking with employed nurses. Connections is the key in gaining employment. Also, I have heard people doing N.A. work just to get their "foot in the door", and in no time their hired as an R.N. It's tough times out there! Yes, there is a nursing shortage, as the hospital administration budgets have cut-down on orientation for new graduates and decreased their population of nurse employees as well. We've had a few strikes in CA with nurses demanding more nurses and complaining about nurse/patient ratio and patient safety issues. I wish you the best, hang in there!
  9. by   Rbey
    I would like your opinion on placing our photos on our R.N. licenses. We have imposter issues. I believe that is the solution to this!
  10. by   msteeleart
    Run the opposite way as fast as you can. I took a prn job as a new grad in a nursing home. They offered me 3 days of training and it was not good training. I called today to tell her that I do not feel confident to be on the floor by myself and decided to give my 2 weeks notice. She refused to accept my 2 weeks notice and said my quit day is today. Their policy is if you don't give a 2 weeks notice then they will pay the remaining hours you worked at minimum wage. So basically I just worked my ass off for 36 hours at minimum wage. Nice. Fortunately I have been offered a psych outreach RN job that is salary and pays mileage at the max amount before it is taxable. Nursing homes don't care about their employees. There is a high turnover and they treat you like you are at a manual labor job. I didn't work this long and hard in order to put my RN license at risk. I only lasted 2 weeks at this job too. Good luck, there has to be something better out there for you.
  11. by   fnazir
    wow I can't tell you how much I can relate to this..It took me 7 months to get a job in the acute care setting in the area that I live in as a new grad. All the residency programs were being pushed back i'm assuming due to budget issues and I applied to every single organization in my area. I finally went out of state to interview and got the job, but the following week I FINALLY got an interview in my area and was offered the position. However, I am extremely lucky because I did know someone from the organization. While I was trying to get in to the acute care setting I worked as a non agency home health nurse. I would suggest to not take that position as it will burn you out so fast (and that won't be good considering you just got done with school). Try looking for home health jobs if you want to stay in your area, other wise try looking out of state (if an option). Good luck and keep your head up. Something WILL happen for you.
  12. by   Lanamarie873
    Quote from wooh
    What is wrong with calling someone new a "rookie"??
    It is unprofessional to establish any nicknames with a person that you don't know.... And didn't give you permission to call them that name.
  13. by   lovinmymac
    Well, for starters, I worked at a long term care place for almost 5 years. I was a LPN and I quit in 2011. I finished my RN schooling and recently passed the RN NCLEX exam. So here I am looking for a job, but guess what? Most people in my area do not want to hire me because I worked for that facility. And besides that, I only have about 3 months experience as LPN in Med Surg in a hospital setting, and if they hadn't went on strike then I would not have taken the LTC job and I wouldn't have moved. So I have been putting out applications and I got an interview for a different RN position, not a floor job, which is what I am seeking, but they hired someone from within the company. I had the job first, until someone else just up and said they wanted it. But okay, I know it was a bit far for me to drive, but I was willing to do it. So now here I am again. I hope I don't go through months and months of searching. I don't think you should take a job at a facility like that even if it is for 6 months or a year. I've done it, I've worked it, and I got stressed out, and almost lost my physical mobility due to the strenuous work. I was overworked and underpaid big time. I had to take care of 2 units and about 72 people at a time, and I had no breaks, no lunches, short handed on aides, and most of the time, the overhead was not available on call in times of emergencies. I had to also work and do other jobs for the RN and the aides, and pass all the meds, and do everything in between without a med tech. It was pure torcher everyday. I see jobs available for LTC, but I don't want them. More power to you if you do, but it's not for me, not even for a day. I've decided to take a lesser pay than what I made as LPN just to get a job as RN. I know that's not right, but I may have to. There is nothing else. And drama is everywhere. Despite all that, I got promised a lot of things, but those promises were never kept. Now I know differently, and I am going to have to decide on what I am going to do. I know it won't be long term care. Oh sure, when you get hired, they will tell you things, but then they switch you around and pull you here to there. It's always the same almost everywhere I've seen. Even when I did my clinicals at these places, its always the same. If you can handle it, then maybe you can work it for a little while, but I've got experience, and still no luck. I'm thinking about not including my past work history on my next resume. I'm just going to leave it off altogether. Maybe that will help. I don't know. I wish I knew what I knew now, and I would have stayed where I was and waited for them to call me back after the strike. Now I've got physical problems from my last job and I have to resort to an off the floor position. Good luck!