So, all being healthcare professionals, we are all urged (if not required) to be vaccinated for the flu annually. I completely understand why. I know there is some controversy about flu vaccines and their safety as well though. I know that people just think, well I wanna keep my patients safe, so i'm getting one, without thinking about the possible side effects, if they really do exist. Not saying that I disagree with it, because that's not the case at all, vaccines can really be a good thing, have been proved to have helped millions of people throughout the years.
As far as the controversy goes, I have found multiple sites explaining about the mercury and aluminum content in these vaccines. Some say it's minimal, others say since mercury is so toxic, it's a bad amount. Also same goes with aluminum. Both which have potential to cause neurological problems. I have read MANY studies which show that If you more than 5 consecutive flu vaccines, you have a HUGE increase in chance of developing alzheimers later in life. Thing is, these vaccines are tested and deemed safe right now, but how do you measure side effects 20 years down the road right now? you cant. 5 consecutive vaccines isn't really much considering how much longer I have to be a nurse, like 20 more years!
The flu vaccine also contains polysorbate 80, which has been known to cause reproductive problems, and cancer. How is it safe for us to have things like this being injected into our body? Plus it only protects against certain strains predicted to show up. I know physicians who refuse to take the shot! Obviously there's got to be a reason. I have seen at least 3 or 4 patients in my few years of nursing, that have had gullian-barre, have no idea how they ended up with it. The only correlation is that they had received their flu shot just before that.
As far as the swine flu shot, I guess this year it seems to be somewhat of a combo vaccine from what I understand. Safety once again, is tested for now, but what about 20, 30, even 50 years down the road, will there be residual effects? What about the swine flu outbreak back in the 70's that everyone got vaccinated for back then, there were a lot of residual effects from that shot, which at the time was deemed as safe.
I'm not trying to say flu shots are bad, I see why they can be important. And I know that people get them to keep their patients safe, completely understand. But i care about what I am injecting in my body to do so. I wanna keep myself healthy too, and the substances in the vaccine just don't seem very healthy.
I guess what I am looking for here, is others opinions on this. Your thoughts on whether or not you feel it's safe, and why. Or contrary, why you feel it's not safe. I understand it's potential benefits, but also see a lot of negative things as well. Just wanting to see every aspect
I'm not against the flu shot...just don't like it being "forced" on me. This year they have changed our health insurance..the cheaper option you have to be involved in wellness activities, get blood work, AND your flu shot. If you opt out, your premium is doubled.
Also those that don't get the flu shot have to wear a mask the entire flu season.
All I can do is sigh heavily.
It honestly AMAZES people think it's great to be told what to do to your body. Let's get this straight, as little information and studies there are out there to prove long-term negative effects correlated with the repetitive use of influenza vaccination, there are fewer studies to prove it does not have negative SE. Studies show in the short-term it does prevent the virus, As for H1N1, how many studies can be so complete? And how many out there truly know how to judge whether or not a scientific study has actually been conducted correctly and not skewed. How many know what to look for and what questions have been left unanswered?
Many hospitals were treating and classifying Influenza type A as H1N1, and sparing the cost required for further testing to specify H1N1 strain because it was not as simple and cost-efficient as an in-house test to determine Type-A and simply treat all Type-A as H1N1.
I for one DID get the vaccination because I was forced to, and I did still get Influenza type A, which was never tested to determine H1N1 or not...And yes, it was not a joy ride, I had some pretty bad symptoms and was so sore I could hardly walk up my stairs as a fit 24 year old. But I am young, and was not going to die from it, nor are the vast majority that do not want the immunization forced upon them.
Children don't have a choice and I do believe they should be helped out during those vulnerable years. As should the elderly, and those of whom are immunocompromised and have co-morbidities.
Although, some people do not mind taking the chance that they will be sick and stuck in bed, and possibly not sick at all. Which happens for many many people. And in return not have to worry that for 1. they have a adverse reaction and have to experience GB syndrome. Which I for one seriously would not wish upon anyone. And 2. after 20 or what have you flu shots they develop some sort of cancer or whatever it could potentially cause, d/t the excessive yearly influenza vaccinations. It's apparent many think its a no-brainer to form the assembly line and get shot up with these preservative/low-trace mercury/aluminum filled vaccines yearly, but it's getting to the point that its 2 in 1, and blah blah yearly, and being forced upon people, and heading in the direction that monetary punishment is being put in place? I understand the need to prevent any and all epidemic scenario's, even if it isn't a high mortality rate disease. But this is FAR from that. And even Avian influenza was not taken to this level, which had far more detrimental effects.. And makes me think, had they come up with an Avian influenza vaccine would we be on a 3 in 1 vaccination now?
Bottom line.. It should always be our choice. And doubling premiums DOES take that choice away do not kid yourself. Insurance is costly as it is, that is far from a reward. That is a punishment.
Reward discounts should be given to those with active lifestyles and healthy diet's. To pay yearly a double premium d/t opting out of an influenza vaccine?? Get real. This isn't a movie.
Everyone has an opinion. So, don't be so quick to give it up and go along with forced action and repercussions d/t not doing something like getting a yearly vaccine that should clearly be each individuals choice. Because if we continue down this road, and these type of policies, do you truly believe your opinion will never be on the opposing side? Think about it.
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My Daughter in Nursing School just received the flu shot.
Minutes after receiving it she started having a burning across her RUQ and Rt. upper lip. Family doc told her it was nerve pain and it was a cross reaction with the dominant chicken pox virus in her body and put her on Acyclovir for 7 days.
I am confused. Never heard of such a thing.
After 34 years, I have not, and will not take the flu shot. Never had the flu either.....even when they're hacking and spewing all over me in Triage I thought for sure I would get it.
My Daughter in Nursing School just received the flu shot.
Minutes after receiving it she started having a burning across her RUQ and Rt. upper lip. Family doc told her it was nerve pain and it was a cross reaction with the dominant chicken pox virus in her body and put her on Acyclovir for 7 days.
I am confused. Never heard of such a thing.
After 34 years, I have not, and will not take the flu shot. Never had the flu either.....even when they're hacking and spewing all over me in Triage I thought for sure I would get it.
I'm afraid of this vaccine for the children.
I am sorry but I believe her doctor was just whistling in the wind. He was giving her a reason for symptoms he couldn't explain. And he made this worse by putting her on an antiviral when it wasn't indicated. While it is recommended for the treatment of chicken pox, it is only recommended for children. In adults it can be used in the treatment of shingles but your daughter's symptoms did not indicate an episode of that, the symptoms occurred right after the shot. Too soon to develop.
When we took my granddaughter in, the triage nurse put a face mask on her, to lessen our and her exposure to a possible case of the flu. This year because she does suffer from asthma, she got the vaccination, without any side effects. When people complain about getting the flu after getting the vaccination, it more then likely is a stomach virus they had all ready present when they go the flu. A great many cases of the 'flu' are misdiagnosed cases of a stomach virus, not a case of the flu. The flu makes you deadly sick for more then week.
Just a quick input about vaccines: Not too long ago, Bill Gates said that the world population could be controlled with the use of vaccines, health care, and reproductive services. That's pretty scary and its not the first time that I have heard something to this effect, with the exception of the health care part. All this is done to release CO2 levels. Methinks the New World Order is on its way...
Don't believe me? Here is Bill Gates saying it himself:
Just a quick input about vaccines: Not too long ago, Bill Gates said that the world population could be controlled with the use of vaccines, health care, and reproductive services. That's pretty scary and its not the first time that I have heard something to this effect, with the exception of the health care part. All this is done to release CO2 levels. Methinks the New World Order is on its way...
Don't believe me? Here is Bill Gates saying it himself:
I'm sorry, but seriously? I don't think he was getting his point across very well, but I highly doubt he was trying to say that the population could be reduced with vaccines. Number 1, if vaccines were such an effective and foolproof way of killing people, a lot more people would be dead and number 2, if there were some secret plan to kill everybody with vaccines (or anything else), would one of its proponents announce it while being recorded on video and audio in the age of the internet?
In addition, this was a highly edited video suffering from a severe case of taken-out-of-context-itis. Whoever put this together couldn't let people see the whole video because the whole video probably doesn't support the idea that Bill Gates wants to kill people with vaccines.
sorry I haven't had time to read the whole thread yet but I'd like to address a couple things. I have spent some time researching this subject as it appears to be a popular one on the web. The MMR vaccine link to autism article has been refuted numerous times. The current flu vaccine is a stack of both traditional flu shot and H1N1.
I don't think the current flu shot has ethylmercury in it, I just think the MMR vaccine has a small amount in it.
Do not confuse mercury with ethylmercury. Small amounts of mercury (hg) are very toxic, very small amounts of methylmercury are toxic (like in fish, methylmercury has a life life around 100 days), ethylmercury is even less toxic with about a 7-14 day half life. MMR vaccine in the past has had very amounts of ethylmercury as a preservative, this has never been shown to be toxic and is well researched. Also,
just as caffeine and cocaine are similar chemically, huge difference bio-actively between the two. Equally large differences between mercury and ethylmercury.
Lastly, Formaldehyde has also been used as a preservative. This amount is minuscule in comparison to the amount of Formaldehyde even a child's body produces in a day (yes the human body produces Formaldehyde, just look it up). In fact, the widely popular artificial sweetener "Aspartame" actually breaks down into Formaldehyde among other things. Maybe thats why your not supposed to consume aspartame while pregnant? Another discussion all together anyways, but point is the amount of formaldehyde is in the picograms or something in these vaccines, less than a child would probably get in their body from a diet coke.
. . . Tam et al. [28] recently provided evidence that influenza vaccination might actually protect against GBS. These authors pointed out that this finding was not inconsistent with an absolute increase in GBS risk after vaccination but that it indicated a smaller risk than that after influenza. . . .
I was just required to get a flu shot, and I am a little confused about what is actually considered the flu season. It is currently the middle of March...two days from the start of Spring. Has flu season not passed?
That's pretty scary and its not the first time that I have heard something to this effect, with the exception of the health care part. All this is done to release CO2 levels. Methinks the New World Order is on its way...
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Originally Posted by Lil'mama