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Apr 17, 2008 07:17 PM

orientation time for new hires


Hi there, this is my first time posting so I first want to say that it has been a pleasure reading the posts on this site, they have been both stimulating and educational. I am a little nervous posting I might add because I do have a question and I would like your thoughts on this situation.

I recently went for a job interview at a non-profit organization that provides nursing care to individuals with a DD in residential group home settings. They have aproximatley 7 group homes that the nurses travel to and the clients have a variety of medical and behavioural issues. The job description is extensive as they tend to be in nursing. The nurses do anything from med administration, g-tube feedings, education of staff and clients, cooking and cleaning and laundry, care plans and the list goes on and on. There are times when the nurse is on call during the night for emergency purposes as well. They have individualized policy and procedures and recenlty added electronic charting. Enough said.

I asked how long my orientation would be and they said it would only be 2 days and then I would be on my own, when I expressed my surprise at the short orientation I was asked, "Well, how stupid are you?" I know that non-profits are not allotted enough money for extensive orientations, but was I wrong to think the orientation would be longer? How long were your orientations when you started a new job in DD? I guess I have never heard of such a short orientation time, even in jobs that I have had with very little responsibility (before I went into nursing) I have had more orientation time.

This has just been on my mind since the interview and I do appreciate you all who read it. Thanks a bunch. Peace and Love.

GoobleGobble


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from jenn27
Old Apr 17, 2008, 10:57 PM

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Two days doesn't seem like very much time. I would be very upset by that comment, an hope it is not an example of more to come. I work at 26 bed icf. We get a day of paperwork and then 3 12 hour days of orientation, more if you feel you need it. Good luck
jenn
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Old Apr 21, 2008, 04:54 PM

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I work for a non profit orginization also, a day program with DD adults. I did not get a formal orientation. The position was new to the organization as they adopted a new program design(Licensed Partial Therapeutic) from regional. I did get to go over some paperwork with another LVN (she does not work in a Licensed PT site). I was hired right out of school with no experience and they were ok with it because the job was new to them, we have grown together (per se). Would you be the only nurse for the group homes? I often have to talk with the nurses from the group homes and usually there is one RN charge and then a few others that work under them. I would think while you orientations would be only 2 days that there should be some you could contact if you were unsure of something or had a question.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 01:16 AM

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Hey,

Thanks for responding to my question. I think that there are two nurses who work full time, one who is part time, and then there are a few casuals as well. I have heard that the nurses are always calling each other to bounce any questions or ideas off of one another..I know that is what I will be doing.. especially in the beginning. I am going to make sure to ask a lot of questions in those 2 days. Wish me luck! I feel I may need it! 2 days...Yikes! Take care.

Gooblegobble
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from diveRN
Old Apr 23, 2008, 01:38 AM

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I work for a non-profit. They have what's called a Clinical Nurse Residency program for new grads. It pays $5 per hour less than a regular staff position, even if you're licensed. CNRs are measured in terms of progress throughout the program, if they don't meet expectations, then they're not offered a staff RN position. Complete the program, get the extra $5. If you score well in the program, you get extra money.

The orientation includes two 12 hour days a week with an RN preceptor and one 8 hour class each week for ~22 weeks, if orienting into a unit or specialty. CNR programs for floor positions are only 12 weeks. The remaining four hours is spent in rotations in each area of the hospital including OR, Cath Lab, RT, ED, ICU, same day sx, admitting, etc... pretty much everywhere except L&D, unless that's the unit being hired into. The idea is to orient new staff to each area of the hospital so they have some familiarity with where everything is and how it works.

Turnover in our facility is pretty low and job satisfaction is high, though we're still short staffed in many areas. Come to California!! We have a TON of Canadians working in our facility.
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diveRN View Post
I work for a non-profit. They have what's called a Clinical Nurse Residency program for new grads. It pays $5 per hour less than a regular staff position, even if you're licensed. CNRs are measured in terms of progress throughout the program, if they don't meet expectations, then they're not offered a staff RN position. Complete the program, get the extra $5. If you score well in the program, you get extra money.

The orientation includes two 12 hour days a week with an RN preceptor and one 8 hour class each week for ~22 weeks, if orienting into a unit or specialty. CNR programs for floor positions are only 12 weeks. The remaining four hours is spent in rotations in each area of the hospital including OR, Cath Lab, RT, ED, ICU, same day sx, admitting, etc... pretty much everywhere except L&D, unless that's the unit being hired into. The idea is to orient new staff to each area of the hospital so they have some familiarity with where everything is and how it works.

Turnover in our facility is pretty low and job satisfaction is high, though we're still short staffed in many areas. Come to California!! We have a TON of Canadians working in our facility.
Wow this sound like a good program. I hope I can find something like this when I get my RN.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 03:26 PM

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"California here I come!" Sounds Brilliant diveRN! As soon as I read your post I started singing that song in my head. Well you never know, if this place doesn't work out you may have another Canadian colleague eh. anyhoo thanks for sharing diveRN.

Cheers,
Gooblegobble
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from Aussie19
Old Apr 27, 2008, 04:37 PM

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I work forI was a nonprofit agency as well in the ICF/MR setting. I was not given an orientation. I had to figure things out for myself. Nice to know other agencies skimp on orientation as well. Good luck to you.
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