CA/ State Prison RN job question - page 3

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Hi..I am thinking of taking a position in San Quentin or Folsom/ Sacramento...if you work there would love some feedback about how you enjoy your work, working for the state etc...thanks!... Read More


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    Oh yeah, the state LVN will make alot less than the MTA, that is why none of the MTA are going to stay as LVN, they are mostly going to become CO's.
    the retirement is 3.0 for the MTA, 2.5 for the LVN.
    MTA can retire at 50, LVN at 55.
    pay i believe at SVSP is MTA 6800/month, LVN 4000.
    none of them are going to stay as LVN.
    they are either becoming CO, going back to school for RN, or going to DMH which is keeping the MTA.
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    Quote from tirzo13
    the federal reciever set the pay.
    not sure when it will start, i believe january.
    the 107,000 is for the bay area prisons.
    ctf, svsp, san quintin.
    the rest of the state i believe is going to be 97,000, still not bad.
    the bay area prisons have a different rate.
    if you work in a yard, you will have 3 day weekends every week.
    4 ten hour shifts, days, and they don't usually get mandated.

    if you work in the ctc/er its open 24 hours, so you could get a screwed up shift, just like a hospital, and those in the ctc/er get mandated for overtime, so screws up your plans.

    nice thing is you get vested after 5 years with 12.5%, so you could retire at 55.
    and no one can really touch the pay.
    outside of the prison pay sucks in san diego.
    how does base pay come to 97,000. i looked on the cal website and it states abot 5000 a month which comes to about 70000 a year, just wondering where the other 27k is coming from. they post wierd stuff and doesn't seem like the give you a true base quote. what is the starting hourly wage with no shift dif or any other dif.
    can someone please clarify for me?

    registered nurse, cf - 9275

    examination information continued
    bulletin release date: 12/15/05
    continuous filing
    revised: 12/28/05
    revised: 7/7/06

    salary


    $6,635.14
    * per month


    *
    this salary includes pay differential enhancements to the base salary as authorized

    december 1, 2005, and applies to all registered nurse, cf appointed to adult
    institutions and division of correctional health care services.
    *effective february 1, 2006, the above salary which includes pay differential
    enhancements to the base salary has been authorized to all registered nurse, cf
    appointed to juvenile institutions within the division of juvenile justice.
    additionally *r & r bonuses are offered at various adult facilities throughout the state
    as indicated below:

    $200 paid monthly at salinas valley state prison and correctional training facility.


    $1,500 one-time payment upon completion of one (1) qualifying pay period (applies to

    those appointed new to state service on or after 1/1/03).

    $1,500 one-time payment upon completion of six (6) consecutive qualifying pay

    periods (applies to those appointed new to state service on or after 1/1/03).

    $1,000 one-time payment upon completion of 18 consecutive qualifying pay periods

    (applies to those appointed new to state service on or after 1/1/03).

    *the above sign on bonus are not applicable to registered nurses hired with the


    division of juvenile justice
    .


    base salary


    range a: $4,349.00
    - $5,098.00 per month


    range b: $4,609.00
    - $5,423.00 per month


    benefits

    Last edit by surgnurse26 on Oct 25, '06
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    they have not raised the pay yet, as i stated in my post that you quoted.
    it has not happened yet.

    its going to be raised to 97,000-107,000.
    the rates of 6600 a month is the current rate.
    Last edit by tirzo13 on Oct 26, '06
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    Quote from tirzo13
    Not worked for those.
    i worked for Donovan in san diego, and i have been at salinas valley for about a year.
    donovan was bad.
    SVSP is good, more teamwork, less backstabbing.
    feel safer too, even though its a higher level prison than SD.
    next year the RN are going to make 100k/year.
    Are you kidding me?? 100/k a year. I'm in management and don't make anywhere near that.
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    Quote from tirzo13
    they have not raised the pay yet, as i stated in my post that you quoted.
    it has not happened yet.

    its going to be raised to 97,000-107,000.
    the rates of 6600 a month is the current rate.
    when is this raise expected and does the 107k exclude any type of differential and overtime.
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    Quote from surgnurse26
    when is this raise expected and does the 107k exclude any type of differential and overtime.
    its straight pay.
    with OT i'm sure many will be at $150,000 at least.

    there are many MTA/LVN here at the prison who made $130,000 with OT last year.
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    Quote from cowboylover
    Are you kidding me?? 100/k a year. I'm in management and don't make anywhere near that.
    yeah, alot of money.
    my mom has been an RN for 30 years and I make way more than her.
    CA prisons pay more.

    I know plenty of nurses who have been in it longer than me, have more difficult jobs, yet still make alot less.
    its a state prison.
    few people want to work here, so they pay more to attract staff.
    even with the pay, they can't attract enough, or people leave.
    the pay is not in relation to what you do or for how long you been doing it, its where you do it (a prison), is the reason for the inflated pay compared to a hospital.

    The federal reciever is doing this.
    He is appointed by a federal judge, the governor and state have no say in the matter, he can do what he wants while trying to fix the health care in the prisons.
    he is the one who said to get rid of the MTA's.

    Not a job for everyone, no matter what they pay you.
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    Quote from surgnurse26
    when is this raise expected and does the 107k exclude any type of differential and overtime.
    That's a good question. Most people are predicting that it should take effect early next year, if not sooner. But, as always with state government, who knows.

    When it comes to corrections pay it's very complicated. Even people who actually work for corrections don't understand it all ... different people will tell you completely different things even if they all work in the system. Even a lot of union reps don't understand how it all works.

    Nevertheless ... after doing a bunch of research ... this is what I came up with. Of course, take it all with a grain of salt ...

    When the first pay raise came down from the receiver, none of it applied to pension benefits, for example, because the pay raise was called a "retention and recruitment bonus" ... not base pay.

    So ... I could be wrong about this but, even overtime pay may not have been based on the R&R bonus ... only the lower base pay. My husband is a state employee and none of his bonuses apply to overtime pay.

    However, in the subsequent union contract that was negotiated last summer, nearly half of the first R&R bonus (8 of the 18 percent) was incorporated into the RN base pay and will now apply to pension benefits and, presumably, also overtime.

    So the base salary has and will go up, but not all of the R&R bonus is going to be counted as straight salary.

    Now, the next union contract won't come up for renegotiation for another three years but, eventually over time, at least part of this new bonus or, perhaps the remainder of the previous R&R bonus will probably also be incorporated into the base salary ... since that's what happened to some extent with the last contract.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 27, '06
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    Quote from tirzo13
    its straight pay.
    with OT i'm sure many will be at $150,000 at least.
    Not necessarily ... I'm sure people can still make a lot of overtime but, perhaps, not as much as they may think. Read the Unit 17 contract negotiated last summer that applies to Corrections RN's:

    http://www.seiu1000.org/updates_2006...628_update.cfm

    Unit 17

    All Unit 17 classifications will have 7.5 percent added to their maximum salary rate effective January 1, 2007 ...

    Unit 17 classifications in CDCR and DMH will receive the increases listed above, but their eighteen percent monthly recruitment and retention differential (R&R) will be decreased by 3.5 percent effective July 1, 2006, and 4.5 percent effective January 1, 2007 ...

    where upon they will continue to receive a ten percent (R&R).


    From what I understand, the R&R bonus is not considered straight pay. So it may not apply to overtime. I know for sure that it definitely doesn't apply to pension benefits because it's not considered base salary.

    And, if you look at the core contract ... overtime is based on the "regular rate of pay." So, I hope I'm wrong about this but ... I don't think you can count on the R&R bonus for overtime pay rates.

    This new, additional pay raise will probably also be an R&R bonus, since that's how they did it last time. I think eventually it will all be rolled into base pay but ... you can't necessarily count on that for now.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 27, '06
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    MTA's are making 130,000 with OT.
    we had a MTA last month make 14K with OT.

    The base pay of the MTA is alot less than the 100,000 proposed by the receiver for the RN's.

    so if a MTA who has a base pay much less than the future RN rate can make 130,000 a year, then next years RN should be able to at least match the lower paid MTA for the year.

    course i don't see too many RN's here wanting to do overtime, all the MTA's/LVN's want OT, they get ****** when they get passed over.


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