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  1. Visit  Mr BSN profile page
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    Dear askingnurse:

    Are you interested in obtaining a BSN or an ADN? Either will permit you to take the national licensing exam and enter the nursing profession, but one is a baccalaurate degree preparing you for graduate study if you wish, the other is a technical degree that would require further education in order to enter graduate school. There is a difference in cost and length of program associated with this choice, which I'll discuss briefly in a moment.

    Platt is working toward NLNAC accreditation for their nursing program. One of the requirements for accreditation is having a PhD prepared nurse directing the program. Dr G is an eminently qualified nurse, author and researcher and Platt is lucky to have her in charge. When you take your pathophysiology or pharmacology classes you may be using books she has written on those subjects.

    In the early days of the program there was discussion about offering LPN and/or ADN "exit options" meaning that if a student decided not to continue to the BSN they might opt to finish one of those options. The decision was made to focus on the BSN rather than to divide the focus of the program.

    The length of the program is 35 months. This has increased as a result of a change in academic calendar, which permits a longer academic quarter and a week between quarters. Platt students attend classes year-round which permits the awarding of a Bachelor's degree in just under three years; the addition of a week between quarters was a very welcome change for me.

    Platt exceeds the required clinical hours by nearly 1/2, in order to provide a more in-depth experience in each area. Platt clinicals and capstone experiences take place at (among others) Lutheran, Denver Health, Porter, Swedish, Aurora South, Triumph, Sky Ridge, Presbyterian St Luke's, St Joseph's.

    In comparing cost, you'll have to decide what factors are most important to you. My decision to attend Platt hinged on completing a BSN in the shortest possible time. If your goal is an Associates degree or LPN training, Platt is obviously not for you.

    All of Platt's classroom nursing faculty have a Master's degree in progress, a Master's degree, an MD, a PhD in progress, or a PhD. Clinical Scholars (who often work for more than one institution at a time) have a Master's degree in progress or a Master's degree.

    Platt students leave the program at a rate similar to other local nursing programs, most of them for personal reasons. Some decide that nursing is not for them, some don't do well in an accellerated program, some have changes in their family circumstances. A few have been kicked out of the program for academic dishonesty or misconduct. In my class, most of the attrition took place during our freshman and sophomore years, in basic and advanced principles, and medical-surgical nursing.

    Hope this answers some of your questions.
  2. Visit  askingnurse profile page
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    platt is working toward nlnac accreditation for their nursing program. one of the requirements for accreditation is having a phd prepared nurse directing the program. dr g is an eminently qualified nurse, author and researcher and platt is lucky to have her in charge. when you take your pathophysiology or pharmacology classes you may be using books she has written on those subjects.

    i contacted nlnac and my understanding from their own representatives was that platt college was dropped from their accreditation. now whether you can apply again repairing previous problems, i do not know.

    platt exceeds the required clinical hours by nearly 1/2, in order to provide a more in-depth experience in each area. platt clinicals and capstone experiences take place at (among others) lutheran, denver health, porter, swedish, aurora south, triumph, sky ridge, presbyterian st luke's, st joseph's.

    why would i want to do twice the clinical hours of another program. it is more money, and more difficult for your school to get placement. meaning that your graduation date will most likely be postponed. i spoke with other students and i am getting an additional two week addition per term at your school. whether this has changed in the last year i do not know.

    the list you have is awfully short of places for your students. here is a list from your competitor at denver school of nursing. they are getting placed everywhere for less than 30,000 dollars, not 68,000 like platt college. other lists for other nursing schools can also be found accordingly.

    http://www.denverschoolofnursing.org/graduates.html

    platt students leave the program at a rate similar to other local nursing programs, most of them for personal reasons. some decide that nursing is not for them, some don't do well in an accellerated program, some have changes in their family circumstances. a few have been kicked out of the program for academic dishonesty or misconduct. in my class, most of the attrition took place during our freshman and sophomore years, in basic and advanced principles, and medical-surgical nursing

    here is where i have some problems with the supporters of platt college. they all sound the same and your statement supports my worries. a few have been kicked out of the program, and our students leave at similar to other local nursing programs. i do not hear this from many other programs. there are not significant drop out rates, and there are not really any disciplinary issues i hear about from other schools. i would like to know what happed within platt college.

    additionally, i read some of the previous blogs, and there is some question about ati exams. at 68,000.00 i may need to repeat a course if i do not pass an nclex style exam. for more than double the price of other schools, you would think you would be more helpful and resourceful to your students. i am not hearing anyone denying what standards you place on students at your school. i would like all of the critical questions answered in detail. as i stated before, i am not looking at how people just feel about a place. we all have friends and decisions we all make, but many disturbing issues are arising about platt college. i would like some answers, please.

    i need assurance on a 68,000.00 investment plus double the time and double the clinical time. with less chance of acceptance at hospitals due to the national accreditation and private college status, platt sounds troubling. please give me a truthful scoop.
  3. Visit  Mr BSN profile page
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    Askingnurse, you seem to have received a great deal of bad information and you're obviously trying to find answers. Good for you.

    I am, however, a fulltime nursing student and have spent more time than I care to on this message board. Please feel free to contact Platt at (303) 369-5151 or via their webpage http://plattcolorado.edu/nursing/nursing.html to get the answers you're after. The administrators of the program are far better informed than anyone you'll find out here (including me), and can help you decide if Platt is the right choice for you.

    Best of luck to you in your pursuit of nursing.

    Mister SN
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  4. Visit  NurseJenni23 profile page
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    I just visited the program, and am really interested in doing it. I can appreciate all comments that I've read, both good and bad. I am wondering, especially for the few of you I see that go there/attended, if you think that as an inclusive program, it is a good choice? I am not really interested in furthering onto an MSN, and if I do, it will be 20-25 years down the line when my babies are grown and on their own. I would like to work at a larger hospital, and congrats to the nurse on getting into craig!, but it is not a necessity. I'd actually love to an OB office, so the magnet hospital issue isn't all that important to my situation either. My preference for the program is because of its part time status. I have a bachelor's, as we as a master's already, and will only have to take literally 3 of the gen ed courses, so I'm looking at 2-3 days a week only, which is great because I'm a new mommy, but one who needs to keep working towards being a nurse!

    With that said, if the 2 main issues being MSN education and magnet hospitals, are not relatable to my needs, would you recommend the program? I liked the school, LOVE the small class size, and feel confident that it would put me (competitively) in the same range as a Concorde, or other vo-tech school graduate as an RN, and having a BSN as an appreciated, but unnecessary qualification.
  5. Visit  Alice88 profile page
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    I know this is an old thread, but no point in starting a new one. Does anyone know how much transfer credit they'll give? I already have a bachelor's plus a ton of pre-nursing coursework so I don't want to have to repeat a ton of classes, or take 3 years.

    I did see that they do have NLN candidate status now, so if that goes through, it will make Platt an option for those who want to go on to a master's. http://www.nlnac.org/Forms/candidacy.asp
  6. Visit  Raicho profile page
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    If I remember correctly, they are pretty good about giving credit, I got everything I possbly could as I also already had a Bachelor's.
    BTW, I graduated in December and am now working at Craig Hospital (Magnet Hospital) and am now getting my MSN/MBA/MHCA at the University of Phoenix. I had no issues getting in and there were no issues with the accreditation.
  7. Visit  Dennis88 profile page
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    Good to know.
    Last edit by Dennis88 on Sep 14, '09
  8. Visit  Alice88 profile page
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    Quote from Raicho
    If I remember correctly, they are pretty good about giving credit, I got everything I possbly could as I also already had a Bachelor's.
    BTW, I graduated in December and am now working at Craig Hospital (Magnet Hospital) and am now getting my MSN/MBA/MHCA at the University of Phoenix. I had no issues getting in and there were no issues with the accreditation.
    Thanks for the reply. How long did it take you to go through the program with your transfer credit?

    On the accreditation, I want to become an NP and all of the NP programs require your BSN to be from a school with NLN or the other national accreditation, they won't accept a Platt degree until they get the NLN.
  9. Visit  Coloradogrl profile page
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    I didnt know they got their NLN that is really great for there students and school I remember I looked at them when they 1st opened up thier nursing program and it seemed great but scared me because it hadnt had a class yet or and accreditation

    I am also wondering about transfer credits too if anyone could answer
  10. Visit  Alice88 profile page
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    They don't have it yet, they are still in candidate status. But that is farther than DSN is. My concern is that I don't want to have to take 3 years to get a BSN when I already have an undergard degree (and a masters for that matter) and all of the standard nursing pre-reqs done (BIO, A&P, nutrition, psych, etc.). Not to mention I don't want to pay to retake a bunch of classes I've already taken.

    It seems like the only way to really get any decent information is to go to one of their info sessions. Their website is awful.
  11. Visit  Alice88 profile page
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    I went the the info session yesterday. It seems like a good program, as much as you can tell from an info session. On the transfer credits, they will accept science classes less than 5 years old and gen ed classes less than 8 years old. That elminates a bunch of the gen ed classes for me since my BA is 15 years old, so I would have to retake a bunch of classes. But more importantly, getting the credits doesn't shorten the program, it takes 35 months no matter what. You just get a lighter load during the quarters that have the classes you don't need to take (plus you save the money).

    The other thing that rubbed me the wrong way was they did a cost comparison with other nursing schools in the are. They did it on the cost per credit, but left out that at a lot of the other schools, those are semester hours, not quarter hours. So it masks how expensive Platt is in comparison - $338 per credit for 201 credits = $68,000. I could probably get 50 transfer credits or so, but that's still $50,0000.

    So if it comes down to it, I'd probably have to go with DSN and hope they get the NLN accreditation by the time I'd graduate. Their BSN program is $41,000 and only takes 21 months. Besides the price difference, you have to factor in the lost income from not working for an extra 14 months.

    I'm still hoping to get in to one of the accelerated BSNs anyway, so hopefully I won't need to make a decision on either of them anyway.
  12. Visit  Sand_Dollar profile page
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    Since you have your BA already Alice88, you could look at CU's accelerated program. They cost about 20-25k for everything, much cheaper...and accredited.
  13. Visit  Alice88 profile page
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    Sand_Dollar, I did apply to the accelerated programs at CU, Regis and Metro this year. I don't think I have a chance at CU with my GPA, though, but hopefully one of them will come through. But if not, I need a backup plan.


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