New national nurses union forms - page 12

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A new national union of up to 154,000 registered nurses was created in Phoenix today, replacing one of the most aggressive nurse unions in the industry and combining its membership with two other nurse-only labor groups to form... Read More


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    To PICUPNP- I don't mean to scare you- but my former union Pres. ( an ER nurse) from 1980-2002 moved to TEXAS. Merry Christmas from Philly!!
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    Yes I have a MSN and no, I personally don't care what you think about my eloquence or restraint. As far as being offended, that wasn't my intention. Why would I be afraid of something that will never gain a substantial foothold in Texas? Its not about being afraid, but it is about informing nurses as to the misinformation spread by unions. They are every bit as underhanded, if not more so, as some of the hospital administrations.
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    Quote from karenchad
    To PICUPNP- I don't mean to scare you- but my former union Pres. ( an ER nurse) from 1980-2002 moved to TEXAS. Merry Christmas from Philly!!
    I sincerely hope she has a good job outside unionizing nurses, because she won't have a very good income in Texas!
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    If a union buster asked me, "Why hasn't anyone explained to me reason being only 5% of RNs being unionized?", I could find the FACT that an average of 38% of hospital nurses are unionized.

    The most unionized states average 49%.
    The least are 4% and 5%..

    This is data from 1995 - 2005
    Most and least unionized states for hospital nurses: Union density
    Most unionized

    Hawaii - 70%
    Washington - 60%
    Minnesota - 58%
    New York - 53%
    Oregon - 45%
    Alaska - 43%
    Rhode Island - 42%
    California - 41%
    Montana - 40%
    Massachusetts - 36%
    Average 49%

    Source: Institute for Women’s Policy Research analysis of September 1995 through April 2005 Current Population Survey Outgoing Rotation Group files.
    http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/C363.pdf
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    Unionize improve the Nurses Work environment, improve Pt. care, improve my income and benefits!!!!!!

    Most hospitals in San Diego are Unionized! Nurses realize it is the best way to go!
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    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    The FIRST AMENDMENT guarantees our legal right to talk about how to improve patient care and working conditions of nurses and our right to meet together. I think it is time for DFW hospital workers to discuss how to stop the harmful actions of Group One.

    Recent Texas post regarding Group One - http://allnurses.com/texas-nurses/gr...ml#post4038942

    Link to thread - http://allnurses.com/texas-nurses/gr...ml#post4038942


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    Thanks for the update on the first amendment! As far as your percentages in the previous post, these are all Forced Unionism states...who would have thunk it. Of course there will be very high percentages in states where RNs have no say in whether or not they have to pay dues, they can't work without paying the dues in forced unionism states! What a wonderful thought....having to pay out money in order to be employed. This is definitely a concept I don't understand. If the unions are so wonderful, why aren't your percentages of unionized nurses just as high in the Right To Work states? No one would pay the dues. The RTW states don't hold any financial incentives for the unions. How could they continue paying the president of the national union almost $200K/yr without all of those precious dues coming in from all of the smiling RNs out there??? Money is what unions are all about!
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    Quote from PICUPNP
    Thanks for the update on the first amendment! As far as your percentages in the previous post, these are all Forced Unionism states...who would have thunk it. Of course there will be very high percentages in states where RNs have no say in whether or not they have to pay dues, they can't work without paying the dues in forced unionism states! What a wonderful thought....having to pay out money in order to be employed. This is definitely a concept I don't understand. If the unions are so wonderful, why aren't your percentages of unionized nurses just as high in the Right To Work states? No one would pay the dues. The RTW states don't hold any financial incentives for the unions. How could they continue paying the president of the national union almost $200K/yr without all of those precious dues coming in from all of the smiling RNs out there??? Money is what unions are all about!
    What a sad, narrow view of the world. Remember that every single unionized workplace is unionized because the workers there made a democratic choice to be unionized. That's generally the way we do things in this country. And even when my union might do things I don't agree with, I pay dues for the many benefits I get, just like I pay taxes even when I don't agree with the government in power at the moment - because that's the way we do things in this country. I volunteer a lot of time to be a leader in my union because I see the good it does for my workplace and my profession and my patients and because it has done so much good for me personally in better wages and benefits. And even those nurses not in unions benefit from the standards that union nurses work and sacrifice for. Actually, it's business and the business model of health care that are all about money - unions are all about the power that comes from being united and standing together. You harp on that salary like it's a lot of money, but as I said elsewhere the CEO at the modest sized rural community non-profit hospital where I work makes more than 3 times that much. It's a bargain by any standard.
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    Tell my if I am wrong. I think Nevada is a "right to work state".

    http://www.calnurses.org/nnoc/nevada/
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    Quote from herring_RN
    Tell my if I am wrong. I think Nevada is a "right to work state".

    http://www.calnurses.org/nnoc/nevada/
    Of course Nevada is in a somewhat unusual postion, in that its two largest cities sit right on the border of a highly unionized state, so they get to have a front-row seat to see the benefits that brings. And the nurses who have unionized there recently have been able to leverage their proximity to California to gain exceptional standards very quickly - like getting the California staffing ratio put into their contracts without having to go through the ten year fight that California nurses went through to win that law. A good example of the way that nurses can pull each other up through unionizing and that we don't always have to repeat the fights that our sisters and brothers went through.
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