CNA set to strike at Oakland Children's Hospital

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    As usual, the cna is again about to have their nurses at the childrens hospital in Oakland walk out and abandon patients over an increase in insurance premiums! The nurses at this particular hospital make an average of $136,000 yearly with 85% of their insurance premiums taken care of by the hospital. This is the mindset of the cna/nnu....GREED! So now they abandon ill children who need them to get better insurance premiums? This isn't about management as they would have you believe, this is about putting more money in their fearless leader boss rose's pocket. She already makes over $200K yearly! Don't let the pro unionists have you believe that this is anything other than about the almighty dollar. All this does is make the unionized nurses look just as greedy as boss rose and even worse to the general public. Cast off the yoke of unionization and learn to speak and act for yourselves. No one should have to pay to have a job! No one should be subjected to senority style pay raises! And nobody, I mean nobody should be subjected to nurses abandoning their patients over insurance premiums or anything else! Be an individual not a union automaton!!

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    Quote from Kuryakyn
    As usual, the cna is again about to have their nurses at the childrens hospital in Oakland walk out and abandon patients over an increase in insurance premiums! The nurses at this particular hospital make an average of $136,000 yearly with 85% of their insurance premiums taken care of by the hospital. This is the mindset of the cna/nnu....GREED! So now they abandon ill children who need them to get better insurance premiums? This isn't about management as they would have you believe, this is about putting more money in their fearless leader boss rose's pocket. She already makes over $200K yearly! Don't let the pro unionists have you believe that this is anything other than about the almighty dollar. All this does is make the unionized nurses look just as greedy as boss rose and even worse to the general public. Cast off the yoke of unionization and learn to speak and act for yourselves. No one should have to pay to have a job! No one should be subjected to senority style pay raises! And nobody, I mean nobody should be subjected to nurses abandoning their patients over insurance premiums or anything else! Be an individual not a union automaton!!
    Nurses that, "cast off the yoke of unionization", are no longer nurses. They were long ago let go from the hospitals where they work.

    So what is wrong with nurses complaining about ever increasing insurance premiums? The 15% that is left may be the straw that broke the camel's back. Add that to the the ever increasing copays, and enough is enough!

    You should be thankful that there are nurses out there who are willing to risk themselves for the comon good.

    And do you think that the, "almighty dollar", doesn't play into a doctor's decision to no longer accept Medicare/Medicaid/ Tricare patients? If you think not, you are in la la land.

    I have been refuses medical care because the only insurance that I have is Tricare, which I am VERY thankful to be able to receive.

    And what is wrong with seniority pay raises? I am sick of new grads, being brought in at higher salaries than older, experienced nurses- also know as salary comression.

    If you really think that you can do better job, than the collective voices of unions, than go right ahead, stomp into the CEOs office, and demand California style staffing ratios. See how far you get when he/she, kicks you but out of the hospital, and you get backlisted, and can't find a job!

    Think that it won't/can't happen to you? Think again.

    JMHO and my NY$0.02.
    Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    Altra, noreenl, laborer, and 3 others like this.
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    I'll largely repeat a comment I've made before: Because CNA/NNOC stands up for the interests of nurses and patients, it makes a lot of very rich and powerful enemies. And every time we get into a major fight with one of those enemies - powerful politicians, filthy rich corporate CEOs, insurance companies, hospital chains, other unions, etc, you can count on a couple of brand new members showing up on this site, with brand new registration dates, solely for the purpose of attacking our union. Now, I wouldn't dream of trying to guess which of our current enemies the original poster represents, but I'll let readers be the judge.
    Nurses strike - always - by overwhelming vote of those nurses to strike. They strike because they choose to, because the issue is important enough to them to drive them to that extreme. The union never causes that to happen, the nurses involved choose it.
    The corporate agenda in this country, which has made a lot of progress in recent years, would love to take us to a world in which no worker has any health security, no worker has any retirement security and all workers compete against each other to see who will work for the lowest wage. Unions are our only defense against that vision of the future.
    backinwonderland, noreenl, laborer, and 2 others like this.
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    Quote from Chico David RN
    I'll largely repeat a comment I've made before: Because CNA/NNOC stands up for the interests of nurses and patients, it makes a lot of very rich and powerful enemies. And every time we get into a major fight with one of those enemies - powerful politicians, filthy rich corporate CEOs, insurance companies, hospital chains, other unions, etc, you can count on a couple of brand new members showing up on this site, with brand new registration dates, solely for the purpose of attacking our union. Now, I wouldn't dream of trying to guess which of our current enemies the original poster represents, but I'll let readers be the judge.
    Nurses strike - always - by overwhelming vote of those nurses to strike. They strike because they choose to, because the issue is important enough to them to drive them to that extreme. The union never causes that to happen, the nurses involved choose it.
    The corporate agenda in this country, which has made a lot of progress in recent years, would love to take us to a world in which no worker has any health security, no worker has any retirement security and all workers compete against each other to see who will work for the lowest wage. Unions are our only defense against that vision of the future.
    AMEN!!!

    Lindarn, RN , BSN, CCRN
    Somewhere in the PACNW
    noreenl and laborer like this.
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    [QUOTE=Kuryakyn;4585977]As usual, the cna is again about to have their nurses at the childrens hospital in Oakland walk out and abandon patients over an increase in insurance premiums!

    You're entitled to your anti-union automaton opinion, but you can't pick and choose inaccurate and misleading facts. How about some advocacy for a more equitable and fair not-for-profit healthcare system in this country; a single payer, MediCare for All program of social insurance!

    As I have posted before:
    For patient abandonment to occur, the nurse must:
    a) Have first accepted the patient assignment, thus establishing a nurse-patient relationship, and then,

    b) Severed that nurse-patient relationship without giving reasonable notice to the appropriate person (e.g., supervisor, patient) so that arrangements can be made for continuation of nursing care by others.

    A nurse-patient relationship begins when responsibility for nursing care of a patient is accepted by the nurse. Failure to notify the employing agency that the nurse will not appear to work an assigned shift is not considered patient abandonment, nor is refusal to accept an assignment considered patient abandonment.

    Once the nurse has accepted responsibility for nursing care of a patient, severing of the nurse-patient relationship without reasonable notice may lead to discipline of a nurse's license and charges of patient abandonment.

    RNs must exercise critical judgement regarding their individual ability to provide safe patient care when declining or accepting requests to work overtime. A fatigued and/or sleep deprived RN may have a diminished ability to provide safe, effective patient care. Refusal to work additional hours or shifts would not be considered patient abandonment.
    nicurn001, noreenl, lindarn, and 1 other like this.
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    Union sympathizers would have you think that no self respecting RN would avoid a union, but that's not the facts! They want you to believe that other interests are coming here to express their views, sorry but that's total BS. If nurses thought being in a union was so fabulous, they would be running to boss rose with their wallets open just begging to pay union dues, but that isn't the case.... Check your facts closely before signing that union card...you could be signing your voice away!
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    There are lots of good nurses in and out of unions. I can have productive discussions with sincere nurses who believe a union is not for them. Harder to have that sort of discussion with people whose only reason for being here is to attack unions. And our growth rate at my union - quadrupling in 15 years - seems lika a lot of nurses are pretty excited about joining
    RN4MERCY and lindarn like this.
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    Just wonderin, OP...

    Why *shouldn't* nurses be trying to earn as much as they possibly can and working within the legal construct of our society to maximize their compensation?

    Everybody else does...

    The hospital corporations and insurance companies certainly seek to maximize their profits.

    The physicians certainly seek to maximize their profits.

    The executives certainly seek to maximize their earnings (and their perqs and their golden parachutes and their multi-year contracts...)

    Why *not* nurses?
    Chico David RN and lindarn like this.
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    Quote from Chico David RN
    There are lots of good nurses in and out of unions. I can have productive discussions with sincere nurses who believe a union is not for them. Harder to have that sort of discussion with people whose only reason for being here is to attack unions. And our growth rate at my union - quadrupling in 15 years - seems lika a lot of nurses are pretty excited about joining
    So in 15yrs your organization has managed to unionize 5% of RNs and this membership has quadrupled in that time? Fabulous! So in another 15yrs you might actually have 10% of us unionized? Your numbers definitely show that nurses are indeed excited about your union, Not!!! Good lord you have the nurses running in droves to unionize
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    Kuryakyn it is easy to comprehend your disdain for unions , but you and all the other anti union contributors never seem to offer a real alternative of effective action nurses can take against punitive , bad managment.
    For example I offer you this situation http://allnurses.com/nursing-news/ov...11671-new.html. How would you have advised these nurses to act , as individuals , to change the course of the managments actions . Please don't offer the usual answer of moving to another job because that option is not always available , does not resolve the situation for those who can't move .
    lindarn likes this.


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