Jane Fitch MD, prior CRNA, now Anesthesiologist elected president ASA - page 9

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Game over people... ASA president... Jane Fitch. Thoughts?... Read More


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    Quote from wtbcrna

    People can count all the theoretical hours they want for MDAs, but most of it is just plain BS. That IMHO is one of the reasons why CRNAs have proven for the last 150 years to be just as safe or safer than our MDA counterparts.

    And this, really, is the main point, and the only one that matters. Say, hypothetically, that MDAs have to go through 12 or 20 years of anesthesia residency before they begin practicing. If the data keeps showing that CRNAs are just as safe as these MDAs, we can talk hours and cases and training all day long, it just doesn't matter. The question isn't who spends more time in training, the question is who's training is the most efficient? Who receives the necessary training without wasteful, additional years.

    Doctors used to be the only ones who could put in IVs (see reference). Now my techs can do it. Whenever there is a new standard of care set, the market then works to perform that standard as efficiently as possible. Anesthesia is no different. Doctors should continue doing what they do best - reaching for better standards of care. That means researching, inventing, and experimenting. However, attempting to guard current territory in the name of patient safety, in the face of much research negating that argument, is not only unbecoming, but its futile. The market will win. Make all the silly Youtube videos you want about "When seconds count..." The market will win.



    http://www.sarb.be/fr/journal/artike...6_3_rivera.pdf
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    By all means let's discount all that residency time spent in "unrelated" areas like cardiology, pulmonology, ICU, neurology, etc. Clearly none of that is useful to an anesthesiologist.

    And of course a couple years of ZERO clinical time and a bunch of graduate level political pandering and politics has all the relevance in the world for an online DNAP and improves patient care sooooooooo much!
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    Quote from jwk
    By all means let's discount all that residency time spent in "unrelated" areas like cardiology, pulmonology, ICU, neurology, etc. Clearly none of that is useful to an anesthesiologist.

    And of course a couple years of ZERO clinical time and a bunch of graduate level political pandering and politics has all the relevance in the world for an online DNAP and improves patient care sooooooooo much!
    Got any research to show all those clinical rotations make MDAs safer and/or better anesthesia than CRNAs?
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    Quote from wtbcrna
    Got any research to show all those clinical rotations make MDAs safer and/or better anesthesia than CRNAs?
    Got any research to show that all the non clinical BS in your online DNAP is worth a penny as far as improving patient care?
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    Quote from jwk
    Got any research to show that all the non clinical BS in your online DNAP is worth a penny as far as improving patient care?
    So, I guess the answer to my original question was no..?
    You can downplay online training all you want, but since physicians don't even have a mandatory classroom attendance requirement and many medical students don't go to class on regular basis your point is mute as usual.
    When is the last time you even attended a formal degree program JWK?

    The DNP/DNAP is designed to make nurses better at utilizing research/EBP in clinical areas. This type of education is missing in almost all degrees right now including physician training. Here is how utilizing EBP that is learned through advanced education can and is helping nursing.
    The Impact of Evidence-Based Practice in Nursing and the Next Big Ideas


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