CRNA Threat - page 7
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I read the following post on a student doctor's forum: "Agreed. CRNA's and nurses in general aren't the smartest group of people out there. The CRNA backlash has already begun. In response to CRNA's push for autonomy,... Read More
- 0Mar 18, '12 by FCMike11Quote from TinabeanrnThere are not many...n=1 here, not in the us and not accredited in likely 40% of our states...their match list likely terrible.It is a real example when the person is practicing as a MD in the US. Can't get any more real than that. And yes, lets get back to the issue. I was just replying to a post about NP online schools. There are many online medical schools. Just saying.
- 0Mar 18, '12 by TinabeanrnQuote from FCMike11You said yourself that they "pop up everywhere." So my question is if they are "sketchy" to say the least, where is the thread in the student MD forum about them and why aren't you all waging war against these type of schools and programs. Bottom line is they do exist and they do practice in the US. Their badge will say MD just like yours. They may not be able to go to every State but in the State that does recognize them, they will be licensed practicing physicians with an online medical school education. No? Not trying to argue. Just saying. And I am gonna leave this thread as it is not about either subjectLol this is your example....handful of states that do not accept online education CA, TX, NY, Conn, GA, Ark, ND, Oregon, KA, FL. An i am sure there is more. When i say they dont accept this education, means you cant practice/licensed in these states.Sketchy school to say the least, these pop up everywhere. Have any real examples?
- 0Mar 18, '12 by FCMike11Quote from TinabeanrnI actually looked and there was only 1 state i found that woulf recognize that degree(could be a few more), but essentially a useless degree...graduates at the best carib schools (SGU, SABA, Ross, AUC) often have issues obtaining a residency considered the increased amount of AMGS and GME funding cut...not all MDs are considered equal...md without licensure is essentially useless.(people on studentdoctor havent mentioned this school much, and they dont usually with caribschools, go to valuemd or google this school. Most agree its sketchy and mostly a scam) Now i digress and will really leave this thread alone.You said yourself that they "pop up everywhere." So my question is if they are "sketchy" to say the least, where is the thread in the student MD forum about them and why aren't you all waging war against these type of schools and programs. Bottom line is they do exist and they do practice in the US. Their badge will say MD just like yours. They may not be able to go to every State but in the State that does recognize them, they will be licensed practicing physicians with an online medical school education. No? Not trying to argue. Just saying. And I am gonna leave this thread as it is not about either subject
- 2The student doctor network anesthesia forum is a cess pool of CRNA bashers, most of them medical students and residents egged on by a group of lunatic anti-crna attendings. They babble on nonsensically about these same issues OVER and OVER and OVER, while asking each other to sign a pledge never to teach an SRNA anything if they can help it. And they give tips on how to make the SRNA think that they are being taught something (prep the skin or inject the local for an epidural but always let the resident to is and make some excuse like the resident has to have just one more).
It is one of the most unprofessional, unethical, pathetic and disgusting forums you will find.Last edit by foraneman on Mar 20, '12
- 3Quote from BabyLadyOR....they can simply practice as a CRNA in ANY of the 50 states since NO state requires that a CRNA work with an anesthesiologist...EVER.I'm sorry, if the CRNA wants complete autonomy, then he/she needs to go to medical school for upteen years and become an anesthesiologist.
- 2Quote from WolfpackRedThere is almost NOTHING similar between an AA and a PA. PAs are FAR FAR better educated and clinically trained. They also have FAR more autonomy and responsibility.an AA is an anesthesia assistant; similar to a PA
- 0Mar 28, '12 by ssrhythmQuote from BabyLadyYour fact checking abilities leave much to be desired.I would kind of find it hard to believe that an AA is similar to a PA.
A PA has precriptive authority and school is not exactly short nor non-intensive.
Last I checked an AA could only earn about $30K a year...a PA..about triple that amount.
- 1Apr 7, '12 by BCRNAQuote from bobbyzr7Aren't suppose to be on the same level? Not sure what you mean by that. They both do exactly the same job, with the exception than nurse practitioners can work independently and PAs can not. RN's start their graduate education with a massive amount of health care experience before graduation education even starts. Most PAs have absolutely no health care experience before starting. It is hard learning to learn to treat CHF when you just learned what it is. PAs deserve respect, but neither group is better than the other.The PA's I have met are really very smart. I've likewise met some NPs that have left me in awe too. PA school probably shouldn't be compared to nursing school though, because they aren't supposed to be on the same level. Sounds like PA school is pretty tough from your description.
- 0Apr 8, '12 by tothepointeLVNI think that poster meant to compare PA school to regular nursing school not NP school but I agree with what your saying I definitely agree that having that wealth of knowledge going into NP school plus the experience with actually dealing with patients not just clinical skills but the people skills. All of that put together does nothing but benefit the patients. And frankly isn't that why we are all here?
- 0Apr 8, '12 by tothepointeLVNQuote from foranemanI just don't understand how they can get through all those years of schooling and still feel that insecure? I guess I come from the "I'm ok, your ok" school of thought. Interestingly enough I encountered the above attitude when I worked in the garment industry. Would not have though those two things would have had something in common.And they give tips on how to make the SRNA think that they are being taught something (prep the skin or inject the local for an epidural but always let the resident to is and make some excuse like the resident has to have just one more).