Some facts about the West Coast BSN program

U.S.A. California

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So as I'm preparing to apply to BSN programs in the Southern California area for Spring 2014 admissions, I recently had an interview with West College's admissions and financial aid reps. So far, West Coast's program was on the bottom of my list because of all the negative information i had heard about the school, teachers, and that horrific price tag we have all seen associated with the school. But i'm so glad i met with the rep and got a lot of these rumors and facts verified because i can now make an informed decision. I wanted to share the details with you guys so you guys can have that opportunity as well......here it goes.

Timeframe (Bsn): 3.5 semesters pre-nursing, 4.5 semesters nursing (21.5 months). One academic year at West Coat is made up of 2.5 semesters. Total 8 semesters for the BSN degree. Classes are 10 weeks long and year round. Students are admitted each term so multiple times a year they will accept students into the program.

Pre-Requisites: About 16 classes and 3 of them are upper division (pathophysiology, English 2, Cultural Humanities) so those must be completed at West Coast or at a 4 year University. They have sort of an articulation agreement type thing on their website if you want to check and see if classes taken at a local community college transfer over.

Cost: Approximate numbers - 16,000 per semester, 2.5 semesters a year so about 37,000 per year. Complete your prerequisites at a community college! Most of that tuition ( what federal and grants won't cover) you pay via 2 options-pay monthly like a car payment or then get a private loan. My thoughts: 45,000 a year for a private school BSN-not as bad as I was thinking, especially if you knock out the prerequisites at a community college. I think Loma Linda has a similar price tag. Someone please clarify if I am wrong.

Students are doing clinical at Kaiser and Hoag Hospital, this I know for sure. I asked the west coast rep what the 6 month job placement rate was and his answer "we don't expect our students to come back and tell us"....ummm why aren't other colleges and universities using THAT excuse....SHADY. More like says a lot about the reputation of the program.

Admission requirements: getting approved for that private loan, if you have a minimum sat score then you don't have to take the HESI exam, and that's about it actually. No waiting list that I'm aware of but terms did fill up fast.

Accreditation: WASC regionally accredited, so state schools and future Masters programs will accept your degree!!

Hope this helps, I know it cleared up a lot of the concerns I had because of all the horror stories surrounding this school. If anyone can fill in the missing facts: Teacher/Class Quality, Job placement ( how hospitals are viewing the West Coast nurse, likely to hire?, ease in getting hired), and how well West Coast prepared you to be a nurse, this would be much appreciated by everyone seriously considering their BSN nursing options in SoCal.

Best of luck to all the future nurses out there.

Tiger---WCU grads have been present in every major verdant program in SoCal, so I think that would mean hiring managers like us ;)

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A) I don't know what a verdant program is. Verdant, CA? Verdant green? Verdant Behavioral Health? Verdant Power Solutions? That's all Google had for me... Does it have to do with nursing?

B) I don't understand why that would mean hiring managers like you (winkface) maybe because I've never heard of a verdant program...

C) If you graduated from WCU, I'm not surprised that your logic and communication skills are lacking...

I'm sorry; that last part was a bit harsh... I have a problem with the school, not the graduates thereof...

I go to WCU. I am doing my clinicals at UCI right now and I know 3 different people from West Coast that got hired at UCI in the critical care unit and burn unit straight after graduation. I wish people would stop saying that WCU students can't get jobs. We do clinical at Hoag, Kaiser, UCI and several other hospitals around the area. The classes/professors vary depending on the subject. I have had some REALLY amazing instructors and some really awful ones. It just depends on what you are taking and who is teaching it. A lot of the problem with people saying someone is a bad professor is that this generation has a major sense of entitlement. It is unreal how many students at WCU think they should just pass a class and then they freak out when they fail. It is NOT easy. If the instructor does not think you should pass, you WILL NOT pass. Regarding the loans, I have private loans and I do have a 6 month grace period... So I do not know what private loan company is not offering the 6 month grace. That sucks. But overall, I really do like WCU. I have had great experiences and most of the reviews about them are outdated. I get irritated with them regarding scheduling sometimes, but then again, this is nursing school. I just get over it, move on, and I will be done next year. If you have any questions, let me know!

This is flawed logic. You cannot use an RN salary for total employment wages lost while in school, because you would not have been earning RN wages while in school. You do not earn RN wages until AFTER finishing school and having become an RN.

It's actually legally based. Example: I'm an RN student who is on track to graduate. I get in a head on collision- I can sue for "wages lost" if I loose any ability that impairs working as an RN since I was on that track. If I were to be killed in said accident "wages lost" goes into the wrongful death law suit. So actually, it's pretty spot on logic since MILLIONS of dollars can be based on this.

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It's actually legally based. Example: I'm an RN student who is on track to graduate. I get in a head on collision- I can sue for "wages lost" if I loose any ability that impairs working as an RN since I was on that track. If I were to be killed in said accident "wages lost" goes into the wrongful death law suit. So actually, it's pretty spot on logic since MILLIONS of dollars can be based on this.

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It is flawed if you're talking about healthy, alive people who plan to get through school without a "wages lost" or "wrongful death" law suit. You're talking about derailed plans. Squishy was talking about life after successfully completing nursing school.

Millions of dollars can also be based on getting a perfect March Madness bracket, too...

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HIGHLY disagree about it being close in debt. It is not even comparable. Everyone has different circumstances so I'm not going to say go here or not but to compare the price to a community college and say it is almost similar in the long run isn't accurate. And as someone said you have to factor in that with that kind of price tag you're going to have to secure a loan which will cost INTEREST. Tuition at a CC is probably around $2K (not counting books, living expenses, etc). FAR from $100K or even $80K even if it does include books and supplies.

I will say though that I have a friend who went there and he is employed. Found a job maybe 3 months after graduating. Probably helps that his parents are doctors but that's another story. I was once thinking of going there but just couldn't justify paying $133K for a Bachelors degree esp when I plan on going on to a Masters program. I don't want to spend the rest of my life paying loans. I have friends who are doctors and have loans of $200K and complain about not making that much money because a lot of it goes to loans.

Another thing... If your situation changes one year and you cannot find a bank to secure your loan you're screwed. Happened to my friend's sister. She had to transfer to Western Governors because she couldn't find someone to cosign for her. All I'm saying is know all this before you go in. Also know how much you'll be paying after you graduate because there's no guarantee you'll get a job right away. Factor in how much you'll be making and how much you'll be paying in loans. If you're ok with that amount, then go for it.

I'll leave on a positive note. This school is good for people who didn't do so great in college and want a second chance since anyone can get in. It doesn't require a 3.0 minimum GPA. It's also a school for you if you just can't wait any longer for a CC. And another positive thing about the school... Regional accreditation, WASC and CCNE accredited. Good luck.

The entrance exam (hesi) is super easy... They offer a free refresher class if u want to brush up on math... U get 3 chances to pass it, I passed it on the first try... Blah blah blah everyone comments about the price... It is what it is... Either go or not don't complain and scare others. I'll admit I read all these blogs before I applied and I am glad I did... Fortunately I am able to qualify for fafsa and will be making monthly payments on the balance (private loans scare me). I have friends in the school and love it, I don't personally know any grads but have heard lots of success stories thru them.

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There are so many people that have their own opinions about everything. And we do live in the country of free speech, so that's cool. I just personally don't like the super discouraging people, it's unnecessary in my opinion. Negativity breeds negativity and then no matter what's going on in life you will never be fully happy. I tend to listen and hear what they have to say but I live life on my own terms. And I've said this before and I'll say it again, people can say whatever they want to say about whatever program they want, but the bottom line is that you get out of it what you put into it. That's pretty much any school and any program. I personally know at least 7 RNs, my wife included also graduated from the Ontario campus and now works at Loma Linda University, that I can think of off the top of my head that have graduated from WCU that are all awesome nurses, that got jobs right away, with great careers at great hospitals or with great companies; from Methodist Hospital, to UCLA, to Loma Linda University, to Scripps. It's about what you put into it and what you take from it. After years (about 4 actually) of working while I took my prerequisites and doing general ed and applying to programs I just no longer at my age have the luxury of waiting. I don't have the best grades but not the most competitive either at 3.2. But I have friends right now that have been waiting literally for years on waiting lists, and/or are still waiting just to get into certain prerequisite classes. I have two friends, both of whom have 4.0's that have been waiting to get into programs for about a year and a half to two years. 3+ years for a few of my friends. Meanwhile no matter what some of the negative Nancy's say, if you truly want to and plan on being an RN you are losing money by not being in school and thus eventually not working as an RN. Yes you are losing money by not working because the time you are still waiting to get into a program is the time someone else will be finished with their program and eventually working while you're either still waiting or just starting a program. Now if you are going to this school as a trial and error or you are not 100% sure about this type of career then I would highly suggest trying another path or taking classes at a cc first. As for everything else yes it is WASC and CCNE accredited and I personally will be getting my bachelors degree. I am pumped about that! I am not ashamed nor will I listen to nay sayers. There is not one BSN program out there that is not hard. Take it all in as you will. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and it's my opinion that I will be an RN, and or will be using my RN license in my career, for the rest of my career so I would rather get started in my program and get to working as a nurse and eventually get to paying my student loans rather than not and stay waiting. Study hard, keep the faith, good luck to everyone either in programs, going into programs, or nurses currently working. And always remember what you got into this line of work for in the first place. That might help you in negative or down times.

Much like this post most people that sign up for WCU do not understand or experienced how much 140000.00 is, it's just a number that is thrown around. The other problem where is your interest calculation and the length of time it is going to take to pay back 140000.00.

Will someone who is going to WCU and thinks they are saving money in the long run please get out your contract and let us know what the interest rate and how long it will take to pay off your private and sallie mae loan ?? I'm guessing 4% or higher ??

There are also scholarships that you can get if you are a prudent person. I hate that people complain about the cost. Lets do a quick comparison-

Average yearly RN salary in Ca- $50,000; length of time to get in and complete WCU 3.5 years- total employment wages lost- $175,000

Average length of time to complete a CC pre-req: 2.5 years: wages lost: $125,000

Length of time to get accepted into CC nursing program: -0.5-2 years: wages lost $25,000-100,000

Total cost of WCU $140,000

Total cost of CC- $5-10,000 (guessing)

Total wages lost attending WCU- $175,000

Total wages lost attending CC- $150,000-$225,000

Total WCU expense:$210,000

Total CC expense: $$155,000-$235,000

Yes it is more expensive, but in the long run it breaks even (or close to), and in one scenario you walk out with a BSN in the other you have an ADN.

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There are so many people that have their own opinions about everything. And we do live in the country of free speech so that's cool. I just personally don't like the super discouraging people, it's unnecessary in my opinion. Negativity breeds negativity and then no matter what's going on in life you will never be fully happy. I tend to listen and hear what they have to say but I live life on my own terms. And I've said this before and I'll say it again, people can say whatever they want to say about whatever program they want, but the bottom line is that you get out of it what you put into it. That's pretty much any school and any program. I personally know at least 7 RNs, my wife included also graduated from the Ontario campus and now works at Loma Linda University, that I can think of off the top of my head that have graduated from WCU that are all awesome nurses, that got jobs right away, with great careers at great hospitals or with great companies; from Methodist Hospital, to UCLA, to Loma Linda University, to Scripps. It's about what you put into it and what you take from it. After years (about 4 actually) of working while I took my prerequisites and doing general ed and applying to programs I just no longer at my age have the luxury of waiting. I don't have the best grades but not the most competitive either at 3.2. But I have friends right now that have been waiting literally for years on waiting lists, and/or are still waiting just to get into certain prerequisite classes. I have two friends, both of whom have 4.0's that have been waiting to get into programs for about a year and a half to two years. 3+ years for a few of my friends. Meanwhile no matter what some of the negative Nancy's say, if you truly want to and plan on being an RN you are losing money by not being in school and thus eventually not working as an RN. Yes you are losing money by not working because the time you are still waiting to get into a program is the time someone else will be finished with their program and eventually working while you're either still waiting or just starting a program. Now if you are going to this school as a trial and error or you are not 100% sure about this type of career then I would highly suggest trying another path or taking classes at a cc first. As for everything else yes it is WASC and CCNE accredited and I personally will be getting my bachelors degree. I am pumped about that! I am not ashamed nor will I listen to nay sayers. There is not one BSN program out there that is not hard. Take it all in as you will. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and it's my opinion that I will be an RN, and or will be using my RN license in my career, for the rest of my career so I would rather get started in my program and get to working as a nurse and eventually get to paying my student loans rather than not and stay waiting. Study hard, keep the faith, good luck to everyone either in programs, going into programs, or nurses currently working. And always remember what you got into this line of work for in the first place. That might help you in negative or down times.[/quote']

Thank you for taking the time to post this info. That is correct and I agree with you! Where are you in the program?

I have a friend who graduated from WCU and she got a job weeks after grad at Anaheim General. Not the best hospital but it's still a job, and she was offered the job before she was even able to take her nclex. I do worry about paying off the loans, but I know I will be ok.

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