Nurses Helping Nurses
allnurses Network: Central | Jobs | Books | Newsletter
allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses
Home General News Blogs Articles Students Region Specialty Degrees F.A.Q.
Ambulatory Care Nursing /

Visitors in OR



Did You Know?
allnurses is the largest community for nurses on the web. We now have over 388,477 members! Join today to network with other nurses, laugh, share, and much more.

Jun 19, 2008 02:22 PM

Visitors in OR


I work in a very small Ambulatory Surgery Center and some of our doctors allow visitors in the OR during patient surgeries. I feel this is unsafe and poor infection control practices (even though the visitor is wearing the appropriate gear). All the waivers are signed, etc. I feel it's wrong, though to routinely allow someone to watch someone else's surgery UNLESS that person is a student in the medical field or for research purposes.

Does anyone know of any written guidance on this subject?

Thank you!


Share

Search Tags
None
Top

 
Advertisement
Sponsored Links
 
Reply
4 Comments
No. 1
from suzanne4
Old Jun 19, 2008, 04:00 PM

Default Re: Visitors in OR
It requires approval from the Director of the OR there as well as written permission from the patient as well prior to the surgery being started.

First question would be: why are their visitors there in the first place? For what reason? Are they just golf buddies of the physician that want to see how something is done, or why?

Are they a rep for the company that is supplying instrumentation for the case?
Top
 
No. 2
Old Jun 27, 2008, 02:49 PM

Default Re: Visitors in OR
We have a surgeon who believes highly in education ,which is great. But I prefer to only have people in there who are active students in the medical profession. He will let ANYONE in there to watch surgeries. Of course, all the appropriate paperwork is signed, but I have a real problem with this. The last "visitor" was a 13-year-old girl who had to be escorted out because she was feeling faint.

I am also the OR director, as well as the nurse director. Our policy and procedure on this basically states that the appropriate paperwork and scrubs will be worn. It does not state who can go in there, which is a flaw I'm going to correct.

What it comes down to is this: this a privately owned practice by several surgeons. They seem to always have the final word. I feel like I can't win!
Top
 
No. 3
from Batman24
Old Jul 16, 2008, 04:56 AM

Default Re: Visitors in OR
Originally Posted by Butterfly62 View Post
We have a surgeon who believes highly in education ,which is great. But I prefer to only have people in there who are active students in the medical profession. He will let ANYONE in there to watch surgeries. Of course, all the appropriate paperwork is signed, but I have a real problem with this. The last "visitor" was a 13-year-old girl who had to be escorted out because she was feeling faint.

I am also the OR director, as well as the nurse director. Our policy and procedure on this basically states that the appropriate paperwork and scrubs will be worn. It does not state who can go in there, which is a flaw I'm going to correct.

What it comes down to is this: this a privately owned practice by several surgeons. They seem to always have the final word. I feel like I can't win!
So a patient having surgery is consenting in writing to having a 13 year old girl in there to watch and observe their surgery?! That's seems odd and inadvisable especially as she is a minor. I would think this is something most lawyers would argue against as well. Do you have a Risk Management or Legal Dept you can turn to at this facility?!
Top
 
No. 4
from RN1989
Old Jul 16, 2008, 02:37 PM

Default Re: Visitors in OR
Visitors? Like people that have nothing to do with the surgery? If they aren't reps that are assisting with using new equipment or med students that the doc is mentoring then this is not cool. And the patient should always be informed before surgery of persons other than the OR team that may be present. If the patient objects then the visitors don't get in the door. I had a problem with the plastics guys having other docs (not plastic surgeons) come in to watch breast augs. Basically the docs were ogling the women and they especially wanted to see the women when we sat them upright to verify placement and fill of the implants. My objections to this practice were not noted and I was put on the doc's poopy list for daring to say that this was unethical. Despite the fact that we were supposed to cover the windows so others couldn't see in but it was ok if other docs actually came in the door. Now I remember one of the reasons that I got out of the O.R.
Top

1 Reader Gave Kudos
 
Reply




Thread Tools


Who's Online
406 members
3,904 guests
4,310

0

The hard to reach on-call doctor, and its effects on...

0

Woman charged with passing off prescription drug as...

0

Paralysed Belgian misdiagnosed as in coma for 23 years

1

Man in "Vegetative State" was conscious for 23...

2

Interesting article on ThedaCare's Collaborative Care Model

7

Possible breakthrough regarding MS

63

16th Philly area hospital to stop delivering babies: Mercy...

10

Really interesting article on Indian open hearts

7

High-Tech Pump Does What Her Heart Can't

6

Air Force RN Found Not Guilty



1

Society Needs Care Too

12

Why am I doing this, anyway?

2

Nurse Heal Thyself

9

My Papa, why I am the nurse I am today.

17

I made it through

11

An angel's gaze

16

A Sister Never Forgets

16

Ruby's Marbles

37

What Do Operating Room Nurses Do?

14

My Little Old Jedi

20

I love this job......

23

"I hear voices"

19

Preventing FRUTI (Foley Related Urinary Tract Infection) in...

24

Error and Attitude

10

It's Just a Shower





Currently Reading This Page: 1 (0 members & 1 guests)

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the Nurse-zine Newsletter.
Enter email address: