Aesthetics Nursing - page 8
Hi all-- I am really interested in the medical aesthetics thing--botox, stuff like that. Anybody know where I can get trained? I live in Colorado, by the way. THANKS :p... Read More
1May 19, '07 by shellekQuote from JeannieTI to have many ?s regarding med aesthetics by RNs state to state..A.M.E.N. has some information regarding legislation and certification...maybe this will help you out. (association of medical esthetic nurses) check out their web siteWOw - this is a great conversation but I felt it left me with many exciting questions.
I'm near Las Vegas, NV and wondering how on earth I can go about searching for a school/establishment that will train me?
A thought on the dermal fillers - can an NP order these for you? In our state an NP does NOT have to work under the direction of an MD (I'm in Arizona) and can act as a GP. Wondering if that would work for some/many of you?
How do I go about finding out the laws/statutes for operating such a business in my state?
See? I'm the curious type!
0May 26, '07 by drileyYou all need to check out AMEN- Association for Medical Esthetic Nurses a n on-profit national org at www.amen-usa.org
0Jul 26, '07 by blkswantatIt seems that there are no easy ways for this new field..If you become a liscenced esthetician (I did) then you still have to retake the exam in each state(or most of them) to practice as such...I think it is easier using your job training and then look into becoming an NP of this field...I don't know...i am very frustrated myself as I have been trying to get a job with MD group for 6mo...Good Luck
0Jul 27, '07 by cosmetic tattooistplease do not feel you have to become an esthetician. You are a regisitered nurse!!!! You can take seminars on topics that tyou wish to perform and work as a nurse that does esthetics. In most states it is within scope of practice. Practices like microdermabrasion, serious skin treatments, massage, teeth whitening, permanent makeup can be done under your liscence and without MD supervision. I suggest that you see which procedures you would like to do and take seminars a nd set yourself up in practice. It is super easy. Try renting space form a chiropractor they usally have extra room and for about 259 a month you have a nice busy place to practice. Beleive me I have places nurses in these types of siutations and have myself practiced like that. Take the leap of faith and do it. Do not over analysis it. Review your scope of pratice regs for your state. Got to go for now. Let me know what state your form and maybe I could help.Quote from blkswantatIt seems that there are no easy ways for this new field..If you become a liscenced esthetician (I did) then you still have to retake the exam in each state(or most of them) to practice as such...I think it is easier using your job training and then look into becoming an NP of this field...I don't know...i am very frustrated myself as I have been trying to get a job with MD group for 6mo...Good Luck
0Jul 27, '07 by blkswantat:spin:Thank you for the advice. I am in New Jersey..they are very strict and have made grumblings that these are not in RN scope of practice....several RN's have gone to review with the board for microdermabrasion without an MD oversight. I am also not sure I cam financially afford to "open" an office/ room and buy my own equipment, as in NJ you can't "rent" rm space...I am interested in going to another state possibley, but I haven't figured the best state to practice in yet..I am still a novice in this field and classes are skyrocketting in their fees. I learned too late that I may not have needed an Aesthetics liscence, but I felt in the long run it gave me more creditabilty as well as giving me the background I lacked. I wish I had spent my $ on those seminars instead. But i am still optomistic that I can utilize these two liscences in one practice. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
0Aug 11, '07 by misswebkinzusaHi - I'm new here. What happened to the thread? Your posts ended so ubruptly in May. Did everyone go to a new site? I am an LPN with 14 years experience desperately trying to break out of the nursing home rut. Contemplating nurse aesthetician, but you all seem to be RNs. Is it not possible for LPNs to attend nurse aesthetician classes/ seminars? Am I better off becoming a licensed aesthetician? Here in New England they don't earn half of what LPNs make. Would prefer to work under my nursing license. Not sure the best direction to take. Any advice?
1Aug 11, '07 by periwinklesHi, I'm sure their are course and certifications that lpn's can take. If you called around you could find out real quick. It will either be yes or no.
I have always found it hard to break out of any area of nursing whether RN or LPN. I have been both LPN and RN and seems like you end up pigeon holed in one specific area and is hard to get out. For example, I have years of critical care and other experience but one time I tried to get a job in a nursing home and they turned me down because I never worked in a nursing home and had no experience with insurance and medicare. Go figure.
Actually, over the years with all the changes going on, seems that doctor's offices are hiring more LPN's than RN's. More cost effective in alot of cases. If I were you I would really do my homework and check out your opportunities in the doctor's offices that do esthetics, and also the chain spas. See what qualifications they are looking for first. Call them or go online and try to find classified ads and check out the job qualifications. I would do that before plunking out ten thousand bucks to get your esthetician's license.
0Aug 11, '07 by misswebkinzusaI just checked out the AMEN site and was excited to see they offer a 2 day certification course in medical aesthetics for about $300. The next seminar is in Las Vegas this October, and even with flight & hotel expense it will still cost less than going to esthetician school. Not to mention I wouldn't have to waste time learning about blush & mascara, which seems to be a mandatory part of esthetician programs. This seminar seemed to be what I was looking for. HOWEVER - on further inspection of the requirements to attend, it states you must have a MINIMUM of 2000 hours botox experience, or 1000 hours botox exp. with documented attendance of an 8 hour class! This is so frustrating! It appears I need to have the job before I can get the certification. Isn't this a little backwards? I assumed getting certified would help me get a job!
0Aug 11, '07 by sirI, MSN, APRN, NP AdminIt appears I need to have the job before I can get the certification. Isn't this a little backwards?
Certification implies expanded knowledge in a specialty area. One should have experience in a field of nursing before sitting for certification.
0Aug 11, '07 by periwinklesWhat if you just took a course for Botox injections? or is that what the $300 course was for?
0Aug 12, '07 by misswebkinzusaI never realized I needed experience before I could be certified in med. esthetics. Before I became a nurse I was certified as a nursing assistant, phlebotomist, EKG tech, and even as an eyelash extensionist without any prior experience. The AMEN seminar seems to cover just about every skill you'd need to work at a med spa, but I'm not eligible without 2000 hrs of experience. I could take a separate course in Botox injection, but I would still need 1000 hrs of hands on experience. I have been calling around my local spa/doctor's offices for on the job training opportunities, but they all want someone with some prior training in esthetics. I feel like I'm chasing my tail. Looks like I'm going to esthetician school!
0Aug 12, '07 by periwinklesIf you went to esthetician school, would they then hire you to do botox or would you still need all those hours of experience doing it first? Because esthetician school does not teach you Botox.
0Aug 18, '07 by TinaLQuote from leoRNI know of couple of nurses who work for plastics and they make 50% of the sale on all procedures they do.Yes, this is true. However, I have not found a post here where someone talks about salary. So, can anybody give me an idea of how much a Aesthetic nurse makes according to experience?
I also know of a nurse who works at a Medispa as an employee who makes $21.00/hr + 15% commission after cost per procedure.
So for instance if she did one syrange of a filler and it cost the client $600 and the spa paid $240 for it the RN makes 15% of the profit after cost of the product. So her commission would be $54. One of the benefits for her is that all her training is free (she just owes back time for the training or reimburses the spap if she lives before her time is paid back.)
Hope this answers some questions about compensations.