US to UK transition, pls help. - page 2

Hello everyone! I'm a RN (BSN) here in the US and would like to come to work in the UK. I've been a medical/surgical nurse for 1.5 yrs, and planning on taking the IELTS in October. I was just... Read More

  1. Visit  Savonian} profile page
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    http://www.nmc-uk.org/Registration/J...Testing-IELTS/
    So, as I thought, they do require the academic-level. The difference is that the general level is, as the name says, general English and the academic is more complexed use of language.
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  3. Visit  babyNP.} profile page
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    Okay, you can't be spoon fed everything time to go do some research, i.e. do searches here and go to the source--the Nursing and Midwifery Council website with registration abroad.
  4. Visit  skylark} profile page
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    Please look into the job situation before you go any further with this.
    Its desperate in the UK right now, I have worked there on and off for many years and never seen it so bad. Whole ERs are closing down, specialist nurse posts have gone, its just imploding before your eys.
    And dont foget the military have cutbacks too, there are one heck of a lot of ex-military UK nurses looking for work too and there is just nothing out there.

    The ER I was working in will close at the end of the year, as will two others I know of. I've opted to get out of the UK again, there is no work there, and unlikely to be any in the forseeable future. Even nurses being sponsored on the ONP are being sent home, its that bad.
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  6. Visit  XB9S} profile page
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    It's pretty grim in the UK at the moment, very few nursing jobs and services being scaled down.
  7. Visit  babyNP.} profile page
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    Yep, I agree with these ladies, it's super rough. I actually don't plan to go over for quite a few years if they allow me to have a license (after DH and I have kids) and I'm just trying to get the initial license now so that I can just have it ready when we do hope to go over. DH is a born British citizen, so I'll have the legality sorted out and I won't have to be relegated to visa numbers and sponsorships, but I dunno if I could hack it if I wasn't married to a Brit or another EU member.
  8. Visit  juan de la cruz} profile page
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    Quote from yemachi
    There is a travel agency called continental nurses they may be able to help you although their rates are really low, and the travel nursing is not like the states. i am a british nurse but have been working in the states for over seven years. in london we take nurses with acute care experience, no new grads, we perform all the tasks you have stated and much more. nurses in london have much more autonomy than the nurses in the states cause no one is scared of being sued.lol and in the icu the ratio with nurse to patient is 1:1.
    I happen to leave an email on the website of the company you quoted to inquire on a whim and promptly received a call from a representative who gave me the low-down on the company and how they place nurses in various hospitals within the UK. It seems legit but don't know how true it is that they could place US nurses for travel assignments even in this worldwide economic crisis. I was told to go ahead and take the IELTS (required regardless of whether or not I am a native English speaker from the US, Canada, or other similar countries) and they would help me with NMC registration (which could take 6 months I was told). The pay is definitely low (compared to California that is) but I thought pay was always relative to where you are in the world. I wasn't really seriously thinking about trying the travel nurse route but thought it was interesting that they were eager to help me. Also, don't know if my ICU experience was what attracted them.
  9. Visit  skylark} profile page
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    Quote from juan de la cruz
    I happen to leave an email on the website of the company you quoted to inquire on a whim and promptly received a call from a representative who gave me the low-down on the company and how they place nurses in various hospitals within the UK. It seems legit but don't know how true it is that they could place US nurses for travel assignments even in this worldwide economic crisis. I was told to go ahead and take the IELTS (required regardless of whether or not I am a native English speaker from the US, Canada, or other similar countries) and they would help me with NMC registration (which could take 6 months I was told). The pay is definitely low (compared to California that is) but I thought pay was always relative to where you are in the world. I wasn't really seriously thinking about trying the travel nurse route but thought it was interesting that they were eager to help me. Also, don't know if my ICU experience was what attracted them.
    Not sure how you can "happen to leave an email", but anyway . . .
    You folks really need to look long and hard at the job situation in the UK. Its non-existent.
    UK nurses are unemployed, even those with good post-reg quals. I personally know of half a dozen nurses who graduated in April and still dont have jobs. And a good few ex-military who also lost jobs in the cutbacks, they are fantastic ER nurses with trauma and field hospital experience that is second to none.
    By all means throw money at IELTS and NMC registration but please be aware you probably wont find a job at the end of it.
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    Quote from skylark
    Not sure how you can "happen to leave an email", but anyway . . .
    You folks really need to look long and hard at the job situation in the UK. Its non-existent.
    UK nurses are unemployed, even those with good post-reg quals. I personally know of half a dozen nurses who graduated in April and still dont have jobs. And a good few ex-military who also lost jobs in the cutbacks, they are fantastic ER nurses with trauma and field hospital experience that is second to none.
    By all means throw money at IELTS and NMC registration but please be aware you probably wont find a job at the end of it.

    What I meant by "happen to leave an email" was I actually sent an email to inquire with that company out of curiosity. I was just wondering about international travel nurse options. As it is right now, I am very happy with my job in San Francisco and wouldn't switch it for any other job in the world so you have nothing to worry about me trying to "steal your jobs" there.
  11. Visit  skylark} profile page
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    Nice sentiment, but there arent any jobs to steal anyway!!
    I've already left, as have many of my former coworkers, there is simply no reason to stay anymore.
  12. Visit  madeleine} profile page
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    You can say that again Skylark. Here I am, 2 Degrees, over 20yrs experience in various Nursing jobs - made redundant! Possibility of employment - ZERO (and I have Specialist experience since 1997). Looks like I shall have to retire and wait for my 'gold plated pension' in a couple of years.
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    Quote from madeleine
    You can say that again Skylark. Here I am, 2 Degrees, over 20yrs experience in various Nursing jobs - made redundant! Possibility of employment - ZERO (and I have Specialist experience since 1997). Looks like I shall have to retire and wait for my 'gold plated pension' in a couple of years.
    Sorry to hear that Madeleine, your situation sounds pretty much like mine.
    25 years exp, BSc, prescriber, etc, been made redundant once a couple of years ago, decided to risk working in the UK again but have had to bail as its about to happen again, the ER / A&E I was in is one of those heading for closure and there are too many folk out there chasing non-existent jobs.
  14. Visit  NoleNurse2000} profile page
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    (very long! But for those who asked the process of US to UK registration process)

    Just found this post and thought I would add a bit of my experiences:
    I am a US Nurse Practitioner with experience in ER, Hospitalist, Primary Care, Medical Aid Units and Nursing Homes. My husband's job was moved to the UK on April 1st. (2011)
    I started looking into my UK licensing issues in Sept 2010 when we heard the UK was possible move. I joked about needing to take an "english test." But now wish I would have just sucked it up and taken the test when I originally found out I REALLY needed to!
    I too contacted Continental Nursing via email and got a great hour long chat a few minutes later! She told me straight away that they don't place nurses in the North West (where I would be moving), but would gladly help me with sorting out what I needed to do become registered. (without anything in return).
    Her converstation helped me get everything I needed ahead of time...or so I thought!!!

    My time line.
    -Applied to sit for IELTS in Manchester the day I arrived in the UK (April 1)- granted test day in JUNE.
    -Took Test in June. Passed!
    -requested registration application June 16th....then requested AGAIN, as they hadn't recieved the first request, July 5th.
    -Sent off first part of registration application -end of July. which included to notarized copies of everything (birth certificate, visa/passport, marriage license, nursing license)
    -received 2nd part of application via post. which asked for letters of rec (which were not just envelopes that you can put your typed letters you have already requested! But forms for previous nurses who held senior roles to you. I have not worked as a "nurse" since Jan 2004, as I obtained my FNP degree and started practicing. So, I haven't had any "senior nurses" - I have worked for MDs....or WITH MDs. But they didn't want Physician letters) I sent the letters that I already had typed by my co-workers and the NMCs "forms" to the US...they filled everything out, and mailed it back to the NMC. Also, my BON had to fill out a form. Which was a NIGHTMARE. I have one of the smallest BON ever. Everyone knows everyone! but they didn't know what to do. then it was a huge issue to sign the form saying I was of "good character." ???!!! you have licensed me in that state for the past 11 years!
    I knew I would need my undergrad to fill out the form. I already had a contact person. She was waiting for me to send everything. She told me she got it, filled it all out and sent it off. It never arrived.
    The NMC sent me notice of this...they said I had to have it filled out again! err!
    AND...I, not so wisely, informed the NMC of my Masters education via official transcript. SO, the NMC then requested my Grad school to complete a form!
    My husband was traveling back to the states for work, so I had him stop off at the university and have the Masters paperwork complete...and witness an official seal.
    I got a call on 27 Dec....there was NO SEAL on my 2 forms!! WHAT! I thought I was going to cry! After much back and forth. they found the embossed seal on my Masters form.
    Who knows what happened with the Undergrad form! But we have FINALLY gotten that form straighted out this week!!!

    (sorry!! I know it's long!!!)

    So. I am waiting to hear a decision ...SOON. Although, I have been saying that for 8 months now!!!

    (I have been out of work for more than a year now...SO ready to be out of the house!)

    Next step is to take the Overseas Nurses Programme. I believe/hope I will be ordered to take the 20day theory course (vs the theory and practical course...which could be 3-6 months!). Now, just need to find a programme. Anyone have recs? There is one in Manchester. 10 days at the campus. 1200 pounds! =0 ugh. just what I need while unemployed.

    hope that helps! it has not been a great experience...but I am keeping my head up! I do have a contact at our GP surgery who keeps me posted on the RGN and NP positions that are "mentioned" or posted. just hate that I am sitting around and not able to work yet! (makes me even more upset when I called to schedule my 5 year old with ENT...only to be told it's a 15 week wait! "hello, NP right here, waiting for work" but I know the money is a big issue right now).


    My stressed don't end here though....We plan on being here for about 5-10 years. in that time...my licenses will have had to lapse in the US. including my certifications. can any of you US nurses imagine having to sit again for your boards!! ugh!!! I think if I knew it was going to be this hard...I would have encouraged my hubby to take the Alabama job offer =0 over the UK "adventure"!!! =(


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